The 4th Step Podcast

Growing up with culture shock and not fitting in, Manny describes a childhood full of being on the outside looking in. The teenage years and early adulthood find Manny getting relief in drug addiction as well as the chaos of running the streets. His journey into recovery leads him to find a clear higher power and the belief that he can make it out alive. The tools of the program become his lifeline to a better life.

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Living with the scars of a childhood stolen too soon, Anita finds the only relief from the pain. Addiction affected her life so bad that even her children suffered in the wreckage. A CPS case and the desire to do the right thing lead her to find recovery. 

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Dan grew up in a home shadowed by trauma and instability. He shares with us about the continuous feeling of anxiety and the link to using. Today Dan lives a life rooted in spirituality and recovery. The story of Dan losing his sponsor to illness really had me in touch with my own grief when I experienced the same situation. 

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Sylvia has one of those stories that really gives you a gut punch on so many subjects. We discuss topics like mental health, suiside, ptsd, trauma and so much more. Topics that are often looked upon as taboo when sharing in meetings. All these things Sylvia can link directly to her addiction. Josh and I both felt the content was so important to let listeners relate to.

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Angie does a great job sharing her life with us. A childhood with generational trauma, sexual abuse, physical and emotional neglect all play apart in how she got to addiction and recovery. A very troubled and dark past leads us to her low self-esteem, questioning if she is good enough and doubting her worth. Recovery gives her some serenity, which leads to a new perspective on life.

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Aubrey comes from a childhood of severe abuse that molded her into questioning her own life's self worth. After years of oppression, she grasps a chance to take control of her choices and finds in the end that the disease had control over all of that. A beautiful example of courage through the steps and spiritual living. 

We re-uploaded this episode with better quality sound. enjoy!

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*Recorded in St. George, UT. Please forgive us for the poor sound quality*

Aubrey carried the weight of the shame and guilt of what had been done to her as a child. By her teens, the pain had found a new language: substances that promised relief but delivered only deeper darkness, stealing years she can now only half-remember. Recovery didn't arrive as a single moment of clarity but as a slow, grueling climb — therapy that cracked her open, support groups where strangers understood what words alone couldn't explain, and the hard, necessary  stepwork. Now, Aubrey doesn't describe her life as healed or perfect — she calls it hers, and today, that is more than enough.

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Our anonymous friend tells her story about her journey to recovery and what drove her here. High anxiety all the time, self-deprecating, childhood/adult abuse and much more tells us a story of survival. She shares with us about going from a 'human doing' to a 'human being' in search of contentment. Her recovery story is a 'hope shot' for us that can't always see the light at the end of the tunnel.

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Charlene grew up in Northern Ireland near the end of 'The Troubles'. Learn about the chronic fear, the checkpoints, the violence, and she grew up believing that it was all normal. We can trace the path from her childhood experiences to the only tool that could silence the truama. Addiction creates havoc and affects the shame and guilt of her life, including her children and the desire to be a good mom. Finding recovery gave her a second chance to a first class life.

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This episode was recorded in Ireland with our friend Tony. Growing up in a culture of drinking and dysfunction, Tony navigated through his youth with drugs and the street life. Walking through the doors of recovery early in life, Tony started slowly piecing himself back together. He reclaimed the life he thought was lost for good.

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