In this episode of Mostly Growth, the number one podcast in product monetization, CJ and Kyle break down the five paths to building a $100M ARR business — from mice to elephants — and what new data from 1,043 startups reveals about which paths founders actually choose, why most companies stay with their first customer segment, and why deer hunters may be growing 3–5x faster.

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LINKS: 

Mostly Metrics: https://www.mostlymetrics.com

CJ on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cj-gustafson-13140948/

Growth Unhinged: https://www.growthunhinged.com/

Kyle on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kyle-poyar/

Slacker Stuff: https://www.slackerstuff.com/

Ben on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/slackerstuff/

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TIMESTAMPS:

0:00 Swag, merch stores, and VC baby bibs

5:13 Topic intro: 5 ways to build a $100M business

7:43 The framework: flies, mice, rabbits, deer, elephants

8:51 Mouse hunting: $100/year, need a million customers

9:07 Rabbit hunting: the most common starting point

9:57 Deer hunting: where sales investment starts to make sense

10:09 Sponsors — Lightfield | beehiiv | Tabs

13:09 Company examples for each animal

15:46 The data: 1,043 companies from Chartmogul

17:16 Retention by animal: the leaky bucket problem

20:36 Starting animal doesn't affect early growth — but does later

21:12 Retention rates: mice 25%, deer 70%, elephants 100%

23:27 Retention imprints on your DNA — even 3 years later

24:25 The sweet spot: deer is the best starting point

26:31 Why elephant hunting early usually fails

28:10 70% of companies never change target customer

29:03 Most common migration: rabbit to deer

30:35 HubSpot: the rabbit-to-deer poster child

31:28 Takeaway: you are what you hunt

31:33 Business blunders: AI-generated LinkedIn comments

33:34 Credits

#MostlyGrowthPodcast #SaaS #ProductGrowth #StartupGrowth #RevenueOperations