In this episode of Mostly Growth, the number one podcast in product monetization, CJ and Kyle unpack the career anxiety spreading across tech. They talk about AI, private-company wealth, career leverage, title vs. cash vs. equity, and why the smartest move may be getting brutally clear on the game you’re actually playing.
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LINKS:
Mostly Metrics: https://www.mostlymetrics.com
CJ on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cj-gustafson-13140948/
Growth Unhinged: https://www.growthunhinged.com/
Kyle on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kyle-poyar/
Slacker Stuff: https://www.slackerstuff.com/
Ben on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/slackerstuff/
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 SF trip and CFO dinners
1:27 A consistent feeling: am I on the right thing?
2:47 Anthropic secondary: 75 people hit $30M cap
3:06 Anecdote 1: CFO at 50M ARR SaaS
7:58 Anecdote 2: banker pivoting to defense tech
8:03 Cybersecurity: best and worst of times
10:40 Sponsors — beehiiv | Tabs | Lightfield
13:40 Graduation speaker gets booed for AI speech
15:10 The comparison trap: luck vs. merit in SaaS
17:54 What are you maximizing for?
18:29 Is leaving tech a real path?
21:07 Advice for the great reshuffling
21:51 Lever 1: maximize equity
22:51 Lever 2: maximize base cash
23:30 Lever 3: maximize title and opportunity
24:00 Lever 4: lifestyle and autonomy
24:52 CJ's career story: consulting at 58k
28:28 OpenView: pay cut for long-term growth
29:13 Is there career arbitrage right now?
29:48 Why join a fast-growing AI company
31:06 Hot AI startups pay well — but expectations are high
32:04 18 months to get in the club
33:26 How to pick the right AI company
34:19 Can you have a great job at a bad company?
35:03 Mediocre at a great company beats the reverse
36:18 Career at a twilight company?
38:38 If you had to choose: what do you join?
38:49 Best time ever to be a small business owner
39:45 AI at the pizza shop story
41:18 Credits
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