Is AI the real threat to accounting firms, or is it the client experience? Blake and David unpack a KPMG-linked Polymarket insider-trading investigation, AI-powered fraud, Xero’s influencer backlash, and a tax startup founder charged with defrauding investors. They also share their own experiments using Claude and ChatGPT to prepare tax returns, making the case that firms must eliminate frustrating back-and-forth if they want to keep clients.

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• (00:00) - Client Experience Threat

Show Notes

Polymarket Trader Won 41 of 42 Earnings Bets on Companies KPMG Audits

https://www.financemagnates.com/forex/polymarket-trader-won-41-of-42-earnings-bets-on-companies-kpmg-audits/

SEC Charges Startup Founder with Fraud (Shiloh Luckey / ComplYant)

https://www.sec.gov/enforcement-litigation/litigation-releases/lr-26424

KPMG Is Testing a New AI-Powered Tax Simulation Tool

https://goodfest.westfield.com/2026/05/kpmg-is-testing-a-new-ai-powered-tax-simulation-tool/

KPMG working with OpenAI to advance new "headless" enterprise tech model

https://www.accountingtoday.com/news/kpmg-working-with-openai-to-advance-new-headless-enterprise-tech-model

KPMG LLP Takes Minority Stake in Deepfake Detection Leader Reality Defender

https://kpmg.com/us/en/media/news/kpmg-llp-takes-minority-stake-in-deepfake-detection-leader-reality-defender.html

Cybercriminals using AI for fraud are making far more profit, Interpol claims

https://www.techradar.com/pro/security/cybercriminals-using-ai-for-fraud-are-making-4-5x-more-profit-interpol-says

Revolut confirms customer data breach after fake government requests

https://fstech.co.uk/fst/Revolut_Confirms_Customer_Data_Breach_After_Fake_Government_Requests.php

Xero issues new apology to accountants, days after controversial social media post

https://www.smartcompany.com.au/?p=344586

To our accountant and bookkeeper community

https://blog.xero.com/uk/accountants-bookkeepers/to-our-accountant-and-bookkeeper-community/

AICPA seeks IRS clarity on AI guidelines, CPA fees

https://www.thetaxadviser.com/news/2026/sep/aicpa-seeks-irs-clarity-on-ai-guidelines-cpa-fees/

Downtown L.A. Fixture PwC Will Move to Century City

https://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/2026/07/08/downtown-l-a-fixture-pwc-will-move-to-century-city/186368/

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Can AI prepare a tax return—and catch errors the software misses? Blake shares how Claude Cowork reconciled books, built workpapers, and completed two business returns, while David examines EY’s bonuses for human judgment, Deloitte’s $21 million DEI settlement, and PwC’s Evergrande exposure. Plus, Cloud Accountant Staffing’s Jordan Sublette explains why onshoring is joining offshore hiring strategies for accounting firms.

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• (00:00) - Ethics And Job Security

Show Notes

Accrual to Acquire Puzzle to Expand Into Client Accounting Services

https://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/2026/09/02/accrual-takes-the-leap-into-cas-by-acquiring-puzzle/189565/

EY Rewards Employees' Human Skills With $100M

https://www.accountingtoday.com/news/ey-rewards-employees-human-skills-with-100m

Deloitte to Pay $21.5M to Settle Claims Its DEI Programs Violated Federal Civil Rights Law

https://www.cfo.com/news/deloitte-to-pay-215m-to-settle-claims-its-dei-programs-violated-federal-c/828948/

Accounting Firm Salaries Rose Slightly This Year

https://www.cfobrew.com/stories/accounting-firm-salaries-rose-slightly-this-year

KPMG Australia to Axe 5% of Workforce

https://www.cfo.com/news/kpmg-australia-to-axe-5-of-workforce-John-Sams/828636/

PwC International Can't Exit Evergrande Case, HK Court Rules

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-08-26/pwc-international-can-t-exit-evergrande-case-hk-court-rules

CBIZ Told Grant Thornton No, No, No, Before Saying Yes

https://cpatrendlines.com/2026/09/01/cbiz-told-grant-thornton-no-no-no-before-saying-yes/

IRS Enforcement Activity Fell Despite Record Tax Collections, TIGTA Says

https://www.journalofaccountancy.com/news/2026/aug/irs-enforcement-activity-fell-despite-record-tax-collections-tigta-says/

Cost Segregation in the Age of AI: What the IRS Audit Technique Guidelines Reveal

https://www.accountingtoday.com/opinion/cost-segregation-in-the-age-of-ai-what-the-irs-audit-technique-guidelines-reveal

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Can AI make tax prep cheaper without replacing the experts behind it? Hector Garcia joins Blake and David to unpack Intuit’s TurboTax pricing pressure, QuickBooks’ push into the mid-market, and whether AI-powered services are a bridge to automation. They also examine Thomson Reuters’ proprietary tax-and-legal AI model, Relate’s $100 million raise, and a student’s unusual path onto the New Mexico Board of Accountancy.

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• (00:00) - TAP 503

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Intuit Reports Fourth Quarter and Full Year Fiscal 2026 Results; Sets Fiscal 2027 Guidance

https://investors.intuit.com/news-events/press-releases/detail/1320/intuit-reports-fourth-quarter-and-full-year-fiscal-2026-results-sets-fiscal-2027-guidance

Thomson Reuters Leverages its World-Class Data Assets to Launch Its Own Frontier Model

https://www.thomsonreuters.com/en/press-releases/2026/august/thomson-reuters-leverages-its-world-class-data-assets-to-launch-its-own-frontier-model

Rillet Raises $100 Million Series C at $1 Billion Valuation, Becomes Unicorn

https://techcrunch.com/2026/08/19/rillet-raises-100m-series-c-at-1b-valuation-2-years-after-emerging-from-stealth/

Silver Lake Eyes $51 Billion Workday Take-Private in Mega Software Deal

https://www.axios.com/2026/08/14/silver-lake-workday-take-private

Stripe Agrees to Acquire OpenRouter to Help Businesses Optimize Token Routing and Usage

https://stripe.com/newsroom/news/stripe-agrees-to-acquire-openrouter

From Accounting Major and Frat Brother to Suspected of Being Penn State's Largest Drug Dealer

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/penn-state-agostino-abbatiello-drug-scheme-rcna593041

Accounting Student Appointed to the New Mexico Public Accountancy Board

https://news.unm.edu/news/accounting-student-appointed-to-the-new-mexico-public-accountancy-board

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AI agents are going rogue — deleting bookings, sending unauthorized emails, and lying about it — and Blake and David trace the trend into the $3 trillion of off-balance-sheet AI commitments hiding in Big Tech's footnotes (and why accountants will get blamed when the bubble pops). They also recap what stood out at XeroCon 2026. Then Hoover Institution fellow Ben Jaros runs the real numbers on California's Prop 40 billionaire wealth tax — why the $100 billion estimate is closer to $40 billion, and whether taxing 200 people is even constitutional.

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• (00:00) - Welcome to The Accounting Podcast

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Is AI creating an audit boom—or hiding the next Enron-style risk? Blake and David unpack NVIDIA’s $500 billion data-center financing plan, why Michael Burry sees warning signs, and how AI is speeding up audits while challenging existing standards. They also cover improved PCAOB inspection results, the end of BOI reporting, Tether’s long-awaited audit, QuickBooks Live’s overhaul, and practical AI workflows small firms can use today.

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• (00:00) - AI Biggest Audit Shift

Show Notes

'Shades of Enron': Michael Burry shorts Nvidia as its $500 billion chip-financing deal fuels a bubble

https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/nvidia-ai-push-echoes-enron-123355872.html

EY leverages AI for audit

https://www.accountingtoday.com/news/ey-leverages-ai-for-audit

In ancient Rome, tax fraud was punishable by death

https://www.popsci.com/science/tax-fraud-death-penalty-ancient-rome/

PCAOB inspection reports of largest audit firms show improvements

https://www.accountingtoday.com/news/pcaob-inspection-reports-of-largest-audit-firms-show-improvements

FinCEN ends beneficial ownership reporting

https://www.accountingtoday.com/news/fincen-ends-beneficial-ownership-reporting

Gartner Survey Finds Audit Teams' AI Use is Common, But Most Teams are Lacking Strategic Adoption and Application

https://www.gartner.com/en/newsroom/press-releases/2026-08-10-gartner-survey-finds-audit-teams-ai-use-is-common-but-most

It's Time for the US Audit Board to Set Corporate AI Standards

https://news.bloombergtax.com/tax-insights-and-commentary/its-time-for-the-us-audit-board-to-set-corporate-ai-standards

SEC quarterly earnings proposal draws flood of public complaints

https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/articles/sec-quarterly-earnings-proposal-draws-112015106.html

Firms (and Some Guy Obsessed With China) Have Weighed in on the PCAOB Turning an Eye to AI

https://www.goingconcern.com/firms-and-some-guy-obsessed-with-china-have-weighed-in-on-the-pcaob-turning-an-eye-to-ai/

Tether says KPMG issued 'clean' opinion in first full audit of USDT issuer's financials

https://www.coindesk.com/business/2026/08/13/tether-says-it-completed-long-promised-big-four-audit-of-finances-behind-usd180-billion-usdt-stablecoin

Real-life ways small firms use AI

https://www.journalofaccountancy.com/issues/2026/aug/real-life-ways-small-firms-use-ai/

QuickBooks Live is Dead, Long Live Intuit Experts

https://uqb.show/154

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What does episode 500 reveal about where accounting is headed? Blake Oliver and David Leary celebrate the milestone with CFO.com’s Adam Zaki and Going Concern’s Adrienne Gonzalez. They unpack AI’s pressure on billable hours, shrinking entry-level pathways, the changing route to CFO, and PwC’s canceled Disney intern event. Plus, Blake shares what happened after NASBA challenged his CPE comments.

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Show Notes

CrossCountry Consulting's new co-CEOs say billable hour is 'waning'

https://www.cfo.com/news/crosscountry-consulting-new-co-ceo-amy-bjarnason-neil-smith-discuss-their-industrys-future/826266/

Diamonds May Be a Firm's Best Strategy: How AI Is Rewriting the Structure of Modern Practice

https://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/2026/08/05/diamonds-may-be-a-firms-best-strategy-how-ai-is-rewriting-the-structure-of-modern-practice/188060/

Teikametrics CFO Brian Beaupre says the career path he took is disappearing

https://www.cfo.com/news/teikametrics-cfo-brian-beaupre-says-the-career-path-he-took-is-disappearing-cfo-leadership-council-/824716/

The Age of Artificial Intelligence: Quinnipiac University Poll on AI

https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3955

We Went to the Boot Camp Where KPMG Teaches Auditors to Think Critically

https://www.wsj.com/business/kpmg-summer-interns-auditing-ai-training-941ad5cc

In Case You Didn't Hear, PwC Interns Won't Be Swarming Disney World This Year

https://www.goingconcern.com/in-case-you-didnt-hear-pwc-interns-wont-be-swarming-disney-world-this-year/

Bitquery CEO Faces $5M Theft Claim, 194 Records Deleted

https://www.analyticsinsight.net/news/bitquery-ceo-faces-5m-theft-claim-194-records-deleted

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Could Grant Thornton’s $5 billion CBIZ deal create a Big Five? Blake and David unpack the private-equity-backed combination, what it means for accounting firm ownership, and why controller talent is still hard to find. They also examine AI’s effect on finance judgment—and why nearly half of Gen Z workers say it makes them less intelligent—plus tariff refunds, audit scrutiny, and rising software prices.

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• (00:00) - TAP 499

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Grant Thornton Advisors to acquire CBIZ in $5 billion transaction

https://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/2026/07/29/grant-thornton-set-to-buy-cbiz-for-5-billion-become-5th-largest-firm-in-u-s/187542/

Accounting Firm CBIZ Urged by Activist Investor to Pursue M&A

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-07-07/accounting-firm-cbiz-urged-by-activist-investor-to-pursue-m-a

Trump floats pulling Blanche's AG nomination until after GOP holdouts leave office

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/30/trump-blanche-ag-doj-cornyn-tillis.html

Donald Trump's tax audit immunity remains in place as Blanche's path to confirmation is cleared

https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/politics-and-government/as-blanches-path-to-confirmation-is-cleared-trumps-tax-audit-immunity-remains-in-place-3858601/

Ernst & Young data breach claimed by ShinyHunters extortion gang

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/ernst-and-young-data-breach-claimed-by-shinyhunters-extortion-gang/

2026 Corporate Finance & Accounting Talent Research Study

https://controllerscouncil.org/2026-corporate-finance-accounting-talent-research-study/

Accounting's missing middle

https://www.accountingtoday.com/news/accountings-missing-middle

A third of companies look to increase finance and accounting hires

https://www.cfo.com/news/companies-look-to-boost-hiring-pay-for-finance-and-accounting-staff-controllers-council-report/824667/

AI's top value for finance now lies in improving judgment, not efficiency

https://finance.yahoo.com/technology/ai/articles/ai-top-value-finance-now-085159658.html

Nearly Half of Gen Z Workers Say AI is Making Them Less Intelligent

https://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/2026/05/19/nearly-half-of-gen-z-workers-say-ai-is-making-them-less-intelligent/183621/

Xero Announces U.S. Subscription Price Changes

https://www.xero.com/us/pricing-plans/update/

Introducing the Lovable Xero connector: build on your Xero data, no code required

https://devblog.xero.com/introducing-the-lovable-xero-connector-build-on-your-xero-data-no-code-required-386873b591bc

We Peaked at 30 AI Agents. Now We're Coming Back Down to 20

https://www.saastr.com/we-peaked-at-30-ai-agents-now-were-coming-back-down-to-20-heres-what-consolidation-actually-looks-like-the-agents-011-live/

Amazon Got a $600 Million Tariff Refund, Some Going to Shoppers

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/30/amazon-trump-tariff-refunds.html

NYC Extends Deadline for Pied-à-Terre Tax Exemption Applications to Sept. 18

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-08-01/nyc-extends-deadline-for-second-home-levy-exemption-requests

Staten Island Homeowners Say They Fear for Safety After Names, Addresses Published on NYC Tax List

https://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/2026/07/31/staten-island-homeowners-say-they-fear-for-safety-after-names-addresses-published-on-nyc-tax-list/187775/

PwC Fined $4.4 Million by UK Watchdog Over Babcock Audit Failures

https://www.globalbankingandfinance.com/uk-financial-watchdog-fines-pwc-4-4-million-over-babcock/

New York Governor Trolls LeBron James with Tax on Rumored NYC Home

https://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/2026/07/31/new-york-governor-trolls-lebron-james-with-tax-on-rumored-nyc-home/187765/

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Could an AI agent decide to hack a system, or cancel your software subscription just to complete its task? Blake and David examine reports of AI agents escaping guardrails, flooding IRS rulemaking with generated comments, and taking autonomous business actions. They also trace accounting from ancient clay tokens to today’s AI economy, exploring why calculating profit and trustworthy records matter more than ever.

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• (00:00) - Profit First Accounting

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OpenAI and Hugging Face partner to address security incident during model evaluation

https://openai.com/index/hugging-face-model-evaluation-security-incident/

Trump's IRS Chief Frank Bisignano Accused of Using Hi-Tech Software to Spy on Colleagues' Emails at JPMorgan

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-irs-chief-frank-bisignano-accused-of-using-hi-tech-software-to-spy-on-colleagues-emails-at-jpmorgan/

IRS blitzed with AI-generated comments on proposed tax rules

https://www.accountingtoday.com/news/irs-blitzed-with-ai-generated-comments-on-proposed-tax-rules

Your Agents Are About to Start Firing Your Vendors. Ours Fired Marketo.

https://www.saastr.com/your-agents-are-about-to-start-firing-your-vendors-ours-fired-marketo/

Basis offers AI agents, love letters and an ode to accounting

https://www.accountingtoday.com/news/basis-offers-ai-agents-love-letters-and-an-ode-to-accounting

7 Million Trump Accounts Have Been Opened, Administration Says

https://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/2026/07/29/7-million-trump-accounts-have-been-opened-administration-says/187586/

DC Circuit Denies Littlejohn Appeal and the Need for Privacy Protections Remains

https://www.ntu.org/foundation/detail/dc-circuit-denies-littlejohn-appeal-and-the-need-for-privacy-protections-remains

KPMG Australia appoints new CEO

https://www.internationalaccountingbulletin.com/news/kpmg-australia-appoints-new-ceo/

KPMG Fires Former COO Eileen Hoggett Over Confidentiality Breach

https://news.ssbcrack.com/kpmg-fires-former-coo-eileen-hoggett-over-confidentiality-breach/

QuickBooks Expands Into Claude and ChatGPT with New Features

https://www.intuit.com/blog/news-social/quickbooks-expands-into-claude-and-chatgpt-with-new-sales-invoicing-payroll-and-lending-features/

Intuit Launches Business Credit Card That Brings Spend Management, Rewards, and Insights Together in QuickBooks

https://investors.intuit.com/news-events/press-releases/detail/1316/intuit-launches-business-credit-card-that-brings-spend-management-rewards-and-insights-together-in-quickbooks

Ramp Brings Stablecoin Accounts and Payments to All Customers

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ramp-brings-stablecoin-accounts-and-payments-to-all-customers-302830447.html

Ramp Launches AI Token Spend Controls

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ramp-launches-ai-token-spend-controls-302827389.html

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Can one accountant really do tax prep five times faster with AI? Blake and David talk with Sam Leon, founder of The Millennial CPA, about how he uses Claude projects to turn client documents into tax workpapers, speed up review, and run a solo firm built around software. They also dig into where AI still falls short, why review remains the bottleneck, and what firms can realistically automate today.

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• (00:00) - Autonomous AI Reality Check

Show Notes

Judge Smacks Down Trump's IRS Settlement And Orders Sanctions

https://www.cnn.com/2026/07/13/politics/trump-irs-judge-ruling-settlement-sanctions

Instead of Uniting the Left, California's Billionaire Tax Measure Has Split Democratic Allies

https://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/2026/07/08/instead-of-uniting-the-left-californias-billionaire-tax-measure-has-split-democratic-allies/186379/

NYC lawyers slam pied-a-terre tax as a half-baked money grab

https://www.audacy.com/1010wins/news/local/nyc-lawyers-slam-pied-a-terre-tax-as-a-half-baked-money-grab

A 1948 IBM computer with no memory at all, fed by punchcards, was still doing the accounting at a Texas filtration company as recently as 2020

https://scienceblog.com/t-1948-ibm-402-punchcards-sparkler-filters-accounting-2020/

Time saved by AI partially canceled out by time spent checking AI

https://www.accountingtoday.com/news/time-saved-by-ai-partially-cancelled-out-by-time-spent-checking-ai

Research Suggests Jobs May be Safer at Companies that Embrace AI

https://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/2026/07/07/research-suggests-jobs-may-be-safer-at-companies-that-embrace-ai/186281/

AI Is No Longer Just a Tech Occupation Story: It's Spreading Across Job Titles in the US and Europe

https://www.hiringlab.org/2026/07/08/ai-is-no-longer-just-a-tech-occupation-story/

The 2026 Best Accounting Firms for Technology

https://www.accountingtoday.com/list/the-2026-best-accounting-firms-for-technology

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What do World Cup taxes, AI-built accounting tools, and remote work have in common? In this episode, Blake and David unpack how tax rules hit global athletes and sports bettors, why Xero’s new AI products signal a shift toward accountants building their own software, and where firms still face risk with audit standards, cybersecurity, and homegrown apps. You’ll also hear what’s really happening with remote work and a listener correction on Trump accounts.

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Show Notes

World Cup players face tax penalties

https://www.accountingtoday.com/news/world-cup-players-face-tax-penalties

How Much Will World Cup Players Pay in Taxes? In 2026, FIFA is the Real Winner

https://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/2026/07/06/fifa-is-the-real-winner-of-the-2026-world-cup/186247/

World Cup Betting Tax Rules Differ for Prediction Markets, Sportsbooks

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-07-12/world-cup-betting-tax-rules-differ-for-prediction-markets-sportsbooks

Xero CEO on AI, the builder class and Xero at 20

https://www.accountingweb.co.uk/tech/tech-pulse/xero-ceo-on-ai-the-builder-class-and-xero-at-20

How we're building Xero to scale with growing businesses

https://blog.xero.com/product-updates/xero-ultra-launch-scaling-businesses/

Introducing XeroForce: Your no code custom AI agent builder for financial workflows

https://blog.xero.com/news-events/introducing-xeroforce-ai-agent-builder/

Paying your bills just got cheaper: Standard ACH is now free in Xero

https://blog.xero.com/product-updates/paying-your-bills-just-got-cheaper-standard-ach-is-now-free-in-xero/

Xerocon London 2026: The Agentic Era Has Arrived for Small Business Finance

https://blog.xero.com/product-updates/xerocon-london-2026-agentic-era-small-business-finance/

TaxDome Launches Kiosk: The In-Person Client Experience, Now Digitally Integrated

https://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/2026/06/09/taxdome-launches-kiosk-the-in-person-client-experience-now-digitally-integrated/184868/

Rippling Launches Business Banking

https://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/2026/06/23/rippling-launches-business-banking/185574/

MindBridge urges clearer PCAOB guidance on AI audits

https://itbrief.co.uk/story/mindbridge-urges-clearer-pcaob-guidance-on-ai-audits

PCAOB Issues Proposed Amendments to QC 1000 and Seeks Public Comment

https://pcaobus.org/news-events/news-releases/news-release-detail/pcaob-issues-proposed-amendments-to-qc-1000-and-seeks-public-comment

Restarting the M&A Flywheel — CBIZ, Inc.

https://cbizflywheel.com/

Starbucks starts vibe coding enterprise stack

https://www.semafor.com/article/07/09/2026/starbucks-starts-vibe-coding-enterprise-stack

Software vendors aren't losing sleep over vibe-coding — yet

https://www.accountingtoday.com/news/software-vendors-arent-losing-sleep-over-vibe-coding-yet

Most accounting firms can be impersonated by email – we checked 275 of them

https://www.accountantsdaily.com.au/business/22638-most-accounting-firms-can-be-impersonated-by-email-we-checked-275-of-them

Despite return-to-office crackdowns, remote work is alive and well as the rate has barely changed over the last two years

https://fortune.com/2026/07/05/remote-work-data-shows-hybrid-and-flexible-work-arrangements-are-here-to-stay-census-data/

AI bills are baffling the C-suite after shift to usage-based pricing

https://www.theregister.com/ai-and-ml/2026/07/03/ai-bills-are-baffling-the-c-suite-after-shift-to-usage-based-pricing/5266383

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