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Blake and David examine Sasan Goodarzi's apology and lukewarm reception regarding the recent controversial TurboTax ad campaign. They also take a look at Intuit's new Enterprise Suite product, which aims to compete with NetSuite and Sage Intacct by offering multi-entity accounting capabilities at a lower price point. Moving on, there's talk of Anthropic's new Claude computing capability, EY's resignation as Super Micro Computer's auditor, and Google's declining search market share in the face of AI competition.

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• (00:41) - Intuit Connect Recap

Show Notes

EY resigns as Super Micro auditor, causes stock to fall 33%

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/30/super-micro-auditor-resigns-after-raising-concerns-months-earlier.html

Intuit Connect 2024: Sasan Goodarzi on AI & the Future of Accounting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xzKztkuhRY

Introducing computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

https://www.anthropic.com/news/3-5-models-and-computer-use

'All hell has broken loose': Inside Elon Musk's high-stakes pro-Trump door-knocking effort

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/elon-musks-high-stakes-trump-door-knocking-effort-america-pac-rcna176255

BDO must face AmTrust investors' fraud case after US appeals court backtracks

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/column-bdo-must-face-amtrust-investors-fraud-case-after-us-appeals-court-2024-11-04/

Google’s Grip on Search Slips as TikTok and AI Startup Mount Challenge

https://www.wsj.com/tech/online-ad-market-google-tiktok-9599d7e8

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In this episode, Amber Setter returns to discuss the AICPA and NASBA's newly proposed competency-based pathway to CPA licensure, offering a 150-hour-rule alternative. They argue that the complexity of the plan might create more bureaucratic barriers rather than simplifying the process. There's also talk on the challenges facing the profession, including stagnant salaries and declining CPA numbers. Rounding out the show, they examine a recent story about EY firing employees for attending multiple online CPE courses at once.

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• (02:30) - Blake's Session on Automation Toolkit

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Exposure draft: Proposed “CPA Competency-Based Experience Pathway”

https://www.aicpa-cima.com/certifications/download/exposure-draft-proposed-cpa-competency-based-experience-pathway

Educational Requirements for CPA Licensure

https://www.dca.ca.gov/cba/applicants/ed-requirements.shtml

EY Got Rid of Staff Who Took Multiple CPE Courses at the Same Time

https://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/2024/10/23/ey-got-rid-of-staff-who-took-multiple-web-training-course-at-once/112128/

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Blake and David examine why Trump may win in 2024, discussing immigration's economic impact on working-class wages and how this could affect voting patterns, particularly in border states like Arizona. They also look at the AICPA's selection of Mark Koziel as its new president, questioning whether the organization truly advocates for average CPAs. Moving on, they discuss Intuit's controversial TurboTax marketing campaign and consider why Berkshire Hathaway is reducing its BOA stake due to concerns about unrealized losses in the bank's bond portfolio.

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• (00:33) - Introduction and Grand Canyon Adventure

Show Notes

Do immigrants really take jobs and lower wages?

https://www.npr.org/2024/06/28/1197959366/immigration-economics-mariel-boatlift

Escalating Cyber Threats Demand Stronger Global Defense and Cooperation

https://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2024/10/15/escalating-cyber-threats-demand-stronger-global-defense-and-cooperation/

American productivity still leads the world

https://www.economist.com/special-report/2024/10/14/american-productivity-still-leads-the-world

Public sector talent shortage: Unique challenges require unique solutions

https://www.journalofaccountancy.com/news/2024/oct/public-sector-accounting-challenges.html

Intuit asked us to delete part of this Decoder episode

https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/21/24273820/intuit-ceo-sasan-goodarzi-turbotax-irs-quickbooks-ai-software-decoder-interview

Buffett's Berkshire Trims BofA Stake Closer to 10%

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-today-dow-sp500-nasdaq-live-10-08-2024/card/buffett-s-berkshire-trims-bofa-stake-closer-to-10--EQHbm5iLN4LTvbgNW29W

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Blake and David touch on several hot topics in the accounting world, including the fallout from Intuit's controversial TurboTax ad, and the National Association of Tax Preparers cutting ties with the company. They also examine Trump Jr.'s threats against Deloitte, KPMG's support for alternative pathways to CPA licensure, and rapper Fat Joe's recent experiences with BDO.

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• (01:16) - Controversial Intuit Ad Campaign

Show Notes

TurboTax ‘Breakup’ Ad Draws Ire From Tax Pro Org

https://tax.thomsonreuters.com/news/turbotax-breakup-ad-draws-ire-from-tax-pro-org/

Deloitte takes fire from Trump-Vance allies over leaked employee messages

https://thehill.com/business/4919910-deloitte-employee-trump-criticism/

Trump supports ending double taxation on Americans living abroad: ‘Let’s put America First’

https://nypost.com/2024/10/14/business/former-president-donald-trump-supports-ending-double-taxation-on-americans-living-abroad/

KPMG Supports Alternative CPA Paths to Address Accountant Shortage

https://tax.thomsonreuters.com/news/kpmg-supports-alternative-cpa-paths-to-address-accountant-shortage

SEC Drops Auditor Misconduct Cases After In-House Judges Ruling

https://news.bloombergtax.com/financial-accounting/sec-drops-auditor-misconduct-cases-after-in-house-judges-ruling

Fat Joe Suing Accountants Over Fraud Activity

https://www.bet.com/article/dh3bcc/fat-joe-suing-accountants-over-fraud-activity

Numeric grabs $28M Series A to automate accounting using AI

https://techcrunch.com/2024/10/10/numeric-grabs-28m-series-a-for-automating-accounting-with-ai/

Ex-Tingo Auditor Aided, Concealed ‘Massive Fraud,’ SEC Claims

https://news.bloombergtax.com/financial-accounting/ex-tingo-auditor-aided-concealed-massive-fraud-sec-claims

Fat Joe On Getting Robbed By Accountants, Using The N-Word, BET Hip Hop Awards + More
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL3RV6SHY4E

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Blake and David look into OpenAI's complex entity structure and potential conversion from nonprofit to for-profit, highlighting the significant financial implications. They also discuss the challenges facing FreshBooks amid recent layoffs and shifting market dynamics and then explore the journey of Vuori's CEO Joe Kudla, emphasizing how his accounting background contributed to the company's success. Wrapping things up, we’ve got listener questions about the value of CPA licenses and growing advisory services in accounting firms.

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• (02:15) - OpenAI's Nonprofit to For-Profit Dilemma

Show Notes

OpenAI closes $6.6 billion funding haul with investment from Microsoft and Nvidia

https://www.reuters.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/openai-closes-66-billion-funding-haul-valuation-157-billion-with-investment-2024-10-02/

How Vuori’s Joe Kudla went from accountant to fashion industry success

https://www.goldmansachs.com/insights/goldman-sachs-talks/joe-kudla

FreshBooks lays off 140

https://www.accountingtoday.com/news/freshbooks-lays-off-140-staff-cites-challenging-18-months

SEC Charges Olayinka Oyebola and His Accounting Firm With Aiding and Abetting Massive Fraud

https://www.sec.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2024-157

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Blake and David discuss a controversial TurboTax ad campaign encouraging people to "break up" with their tax professionals, analyze survey data on AI adoption in accounting firms, and critically examine proposed changes to CPA licensure requirements. They also explore NASBA's influence on the profession end debate the merits of automatic mobility for CPAs across states.

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• (01:32) - Intuit's Controversial NFL Commercial

Show Notes

TurboTax 2024 Beat Your Price Commercial "Tax Break-Up" (Official TV Ad :30)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW7rfwO6_is

Intuit Hosts Investor Day, Reaffirms First-Quarter and Fiscal 2025 Guidance

https://investors.intuit.com/news-events/press-releases/detail/1215/intuit-hosts-investor-day-reaffirms-first-quarter-and-fiscal-2025-guidance

The State of AI in Accounting Report 2024

https://karbonhq.com/resources/state-of-ai-accounting-report-2024/

AICPA, NASBA propose a new pathway to CPA licensure

https://www.journalofaccountancy.com/news/2024/sep/cpa-competency-based-licensure-pathway.html

AICPA and NASBA Propose Changes to the Uniform Accountancy Act

https://www.masscpas.org/news/f339a29a-f278-4bc3-bf30-b1e10d198ca2:aicpa-and-nasba-propose-changes-to-the-uniform-accountancy-act

The Hazards of Redefining Mobility

https://nasba.org/blog/2024/09/19/the-hazards-of-redefining-mobility/

How Accounting Firms Can Overcome the Profit Plateau

https://www.accountingtoday.com/opinion/how-accounting-firms-can-overcome-the-profit-plateau

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Blake and David meet with Natalie Lennon, the Australian accountant known as the "Queen of TikTok" in accounting circles. Natalie shares her experiences at Xerocon Nashville, discusses the differences between Australian and American accounting practices, and explains how she leveraged TikTok to grow her accounting business. She also outlines implementing a four-day workweek, embracing fixed-fee pricing, and her upcoming projects, including a TikTok course for accountants.

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Blake and David examine the evolving landscape of remote work, discussing recent trends and their impact on productivity and employee well-being. They also explore the commercial real estate market's challenges due to the shift towards remote work and its potential implications for the banking sector. Moving on, they take a look at recent audit failures, particularly the FTX case and discuss the controversial Beneficial Ownership Information reporting requirements and some potential issues for small businesses.

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• (00:49) - Blake's Fitness Journey with Apple Watch

Show Notes

How Remote Work Is Impacting Accounting Firms

https://cpatrendlines.com/2024/09/22/how-remote-work-is-impacting-accounting-firms/

2024 KPMG U.S. CEO Outlook Pulse Survey

https://kpmg.com/us/en/articles/2024/kpmg-2024-ceo-outlook-pulse-survey.html

Amazon tells employees to return to office five days a week

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/09/16/amazon-jassy-tells-employees-to-return-to-office-five-days-a-week.html

Wells Fargo employee found dead at her desk days after she last clocked into work, authorities say

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/31/us/wells-fargo-employee-desk-arizona/index.html

Eric Schmidt Calls Remote Work a Mistake for Google in Disappearing Video

https://nationalcioreview.com/articles-insights/news/eric-schmidt-calls-remote-work-a-mistake-for-google-in-disappearing-video/

Audit Firm Prager Metis Settles SEC Charges for Negligence in FTX Audits and for Violating Auditor Independence Requirements

https://www.sec.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2024-133

Beneficial Ownership Reporting Outreach and Education Toolkit

https://www.fincen.gov/boi/toolkit

BOI requirements roll along despite concerns about too little outreach

https://www.journalofaccountancy.com/news/2024/aug/boi-reporting-requirements.html

Property Fraud Allegations Snowball as Commercial Real Estate Values Fall

https://www.wsj.com/real-estate/property-fraud-allegations-snowball-as-commercial-real-estate-values-fall-492d964c

Nearly a Quarter of Office Space in the U.S. Will Be Empty by 2026

https://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/2024/07/01/nearly-a-quarter-of-office-space-in-the-u-s-will-be-empty-by-2026/107376/

Big Banks are Taking Hits from Commercial Real Estate

https://www.wsj.com/finance/banking/commercial-property-loans-real-estate-banks-249a43b9

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Blake and David explore Intuit's new Enterprise Suite, a product that appears to compete with NetSuite in the mid-market ERP space. They also
discuss a major audit failure by PwC in China related to Evergrande, raising concerns about the ethics and integrity at large accounting firms.
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• (01:32) - Intuit's New ERP System

Show Notes

Intuit Introduces Intuit Enterprise Suite to Help Businesses Grow, Streamline Operations, and Scale

https://investors.intuit.com/news-events/press-releases/detail/1213/intuit-introduces-intuit-enterprise-suite-to-help-businesses-grow-streamline-operations-and-scale 

PwC faces record fine over Evergrande audit in China

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/pwc-faces-record-fine-over-131518742.html

 Death of young Ernst & Young employee raises questions about workplace culture

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/death-young-ernst-young-employee-raises-questions-workplace-culture-rcna171945 

Comparison of Models: Quality, Performance & Price Analysis

https://artificialanalysis.ai/models

Waymo significantly outperforms comparable human benchmarks over 7+ million miles of rider-only driving

https://waymo.com/blog/2023/12/waymo-significantly-outperforms-comparable-human-benchmarks-over-7-million 

AICPA, NASBA propose a new pathway to CPA licensure

https://www.journalofaccountancy.com/news/2024/sep/cpa-competency-based-licensure-pathway.html

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Blake and David meet with Kenyth Holdefer, who shares his unconventional path to becoming a CPA. Kenyth details how he obtained his bachelor's and master's degrees in just over four months through Western Governors University's competency-based education model, followed by passing all four CPA exams within six months. Kenyth highlights his transition from a successful career in mortgages to public accounting, emphasizing the potential for alternative educational paths in addressing the accounting profession's talent shortage.

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