In this episode Dan takes the lead and talks about what its like having a a full time job whilst maintaining to a artistic lifestyle.

In this episode, Charles and Dan talk about the economics and why you shouldn't be a starving artist.

In our debut episode Charles and Dan attempt to find a name for the podcast. Spoiler alert: it's trickier than it sounds. They Introduce their busy lives juggling full-time jobs, family, and running multiple businesses, whilst also pursuing a acting career. They are starting a podcast to help others achieve their goals and take part in the chaos of there creative lives because apparently, they don't have enough on their plates.