Adam Shilton sits down with Jacob Bank, the Stanford AI lab alumnus, Ex-Google Product Director and founder of Relay app, to demystify AI agents and their practical applications. Jacob cuts through the hype to explain the meaningful differences between AI workflows, agents, and co-pilots, offering actionable advice for businesses looking to implement these tools.

Their discussion moves beyond technical definitions to explore how AI is reshaping go-to-market strategies, with both agreeing that authentic human connection and trust will become increasingly valuable differentiators in an AI-saturated marketplace.

-- SHOW NOTES ---

Jacob Bank: Founder and CEO of Relay app | www.linkedin.com/in/jacobbank/

- Relay app: AI workflow platform | www.relay.app

- Matt Barker: Copywriter mentioned for content strategy | LinkedIn

- Will Barron: Founder of Salesman.com podcast | salesman.com

- "Market of One": Will Barron's upcoming book/training program

- Magic Post: AI tool for LinkedIn content creation

- Clay: Sales intelligence platform

- Napkin AI: Graphics creation tool mentioned by Jacob

- Make.com: Automation platform Adam uses for invoice management

- Stanford AI Lab: Where Jacob studied

- Timeful: Jacob's previous company (acquired by Google)

- Google: Where Jacob worked as product director

--CHAPTERS --

(00:04:00) - AI agents vs. workflows: What business owners need to know

(00:07:00) - Why "agent" terminology caught on despite its creepy connotations

(00:10:00) - The fundamental difference between AI agents and co-pilots

(00:13:00) - How AI reduces complexity in workflow creation

(00:16:00) - Picking the right AI tool for different business tasks

(00:20:00) - AI in sales outreach: Personalization vs targeting efficiency

(00:24:00) - Why timing and trigger events matter more than message content

(00:30:00) - Domain-specific AI tools like Magic Post for LinkedIn content

(00:33:00) - How AI will transform product go-to-market strategies

(00:37:00) - Building trust in the "Market of One" approach

(00:43:00) - Creating valuable content vs chasing LinkedIn engagement

(00:49:00) - Why YouTube tutorials drive more qualified traffic than LinkedIn posts

(00:54:00) - What it means to be irreplaceable in the age of AI

(00:58:00) - Finding value as the "creative director" of AI outputs

In this thought-provoking conversation, Adam speaks with Kunal Dalal, AI expert in education and author of "The AI Parent." They explore how AI is transforming education and parenting in profound ways. From discussing the outdated model of competitive education to examining how indigenous wisdom might guide our approach to technology, Kunal shares insights on helping children find purpose in an AI-driven world where human connection matters more than digital achievements.—SHOW NOTES--- Kunal Dalal's book: "The AI Parent" - how to parent children in an AI-driven world- Orange County Department of Education - where Kunal heads up Artificial Intelligence- Indigenous AI concepts - Wakani Hoffman's work on infusing AI with indigenous values- Ray Kurzweil's book: "The Singularity is Nearer" - discussed around 32:00- Mo Gawdat - former chief business officer at Google X and author of "Solve for Happy" - https://www.mogawdat.com/- Hassan Kubba - helps authors, appeared on Slow Mo podcast (Mo Gawdat's podcast)- Documentary: "Happy" (2012) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1613092/- "Blue Zones" project by Dan Buettner - Netflix documentary about longevity and community- Ikigai - Japanese concept of finding purpose discussed in relation to longevity- Palace of Knossos - ancient Greek engineering mentioned as example of historical intelligence- Göbekli Tepe in Turkey - ancient archaeological site mentioned—CHAPTERS—(00:03:00) - Kunal discusses biggest misconceptions about AI in education globally(00:07:00) - Exploring rigid educational systems versus entrepreneurial culture mismatch(00:11:00) - Adam shares personal educational experiences and finding identity through music(00:15:00) - Discussion on youth feeling disillusioned about their future in today's world(00:19:00) - Mo Gawdat's story and finding purpose after personal tragedy(00:23:00) - How becoming a parent shifts one's perspective on purpose and meaning(00:27:00) - Reframing children's purpose as healing the world rather than competition(00:31:00) - Exploring the concept of hive mind and Ray Kurzweil's singularity ideas(00:35:00) - Ancient engineering intelligence examples from Knossos and historical civilizations(00:43:00) - Indigenous wisdom offering collaborative rather than competitive societal models(00:47:00) - The psychological impacts of chasing social media metrics and validation(00:53:00) - Mental health challenges from comparing oneself to others online(00:57:00) - The value of human connection versus digital achievements and relationships(01:03:00) - Documentary "Happy" and lessons about community versus material success(01:09:00) - The importance of being present with children versus digital distractions(01:13:00) - Adam shares heartwarming "mini high five" ritual with his son(01:17:00) - Kunal's final thoughts on what makes humans truly irreplaceableFor more, head over to www.adamshilton.com

In this thought-provoking episode, Adam Shilton joins Paul Barnhurst and Glenn Hopper to explore the current state of AI content creation. They examine AI-generated podcasts, synthetic data risks, and why AI still struggles with creating authentic, non-sterile content. The hosts share practical insights on how to effectively work with AI tools for learning, thinking, and doing tasks, rather than trying to outsource skills entirely. Adam's approach to AI as a supportive mechanism rather than a standalone entity offers valuable perspective for anyone looking to remain irreplaceable in an AI-driven world.

The conversation also follows Adam's personal journey from corporate finance to entrepreneurship after his July TEDx talk. He candidly discusses building a business without a large savings cushion, finding problems worth solving rather than just having "good ideas," and his mission to help others build careers around their passions. His refreshing take on using technology to break down barriers and level the playing field provides inspiration for listeners considering similar transitions.

Originally published on the Future Finance Podcast:

- Website - https://www.thefpandaguy.com/future-finance

- Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/2fwR53Rio39P6p7u7L73Fu

— SHOW NOTES —

- Information about Adam Shilton, founder, technologist, and TEDx speaker: [https://adamshilton.com](https://adamshilton.com/)

- Rob Lennon's AI podcast host mentioned by Adam: Search "Rob Lennon AI podcast host"

- Google's Notebook LM, an AI tool discussed by the hosts: https://deepmind.google/technologies/gemini/notebook/

- OpenAI Playground for testing prompts and voice bots: https://platform.openai.com/playground

- Meta (Facebook) AI avatar profiles mentioned in the discussion: Search "Meta AI avatar profiles"

- Ethan Mollick's book "Cointelligence" referenced by Adam: Search for "Ethan Mollick Cointelligence book"

- Paul's training partner Ron Montero's book "Love Mondays": Search for "Love Mondays Ron Montero book"

— CHAPTERS —

(00:03:25) - Discussion about AI-generated podcasts and cloned voices.

(00:06:30) - Exploring risks of AI learning from its own synthetic data.

(00:10:15) - Glenn's perspective on limitations of synthetic data for AI training.

(00:16:32) - Why AI still struggles with authenticity in writing and content.

(00:20:45) - Using AI for improving content rather than creating from scratch.

(00:24:10) - How to learn new skills with AI as a teaching assistant.

(00:29:40) - The importance of domain expertise when working with AI.

(00:35:20) - Adam's experience with creating "Franken-code" through AI assistance.

(00:38:30) - Adam discusses his TEDx talk about technology and passion careers.

(00:41:45) - Adam's journey into entrepreneurship without a traditional savings runway.

Feeling overwhelmed by endless to-do lists and competing priorities? In this game-changing episode, discover a revolutionary three-step framework that combines AI technology with proven productivity principles to finally take control of your tasks. Host Adam shares his journey from chaos to clarity, introducing the "Productivity Pyramid" - a powerful system for aligning your daily actions with your biggest goals.

Learn how to leverage AI tools to build your own productivity framework, categorize tasks effectively, and identify the "lead domino" that makes everything else easier or unnecessary. Whether you're a busy professional or ambitious entrepreneur, this 45-minute episode delivers the exact blueprint you need to make better decisions and achieve meaningful progress without the overwhelm. Join us for this practical guide to transforming your productivity with the power of artificial intelligence.

For more, head over to www.adamshilton.com

Dive into the cutting-edge world of AI-powered data analysis with tech expert Adam Shilton. In this illuminating keynote from the Grow CFO Global Finance Summit, Adam breaks down how Python is revolutionizing Excel, explores real-world machine learning successes and failures, and provides a practical framework for selecting AI tools. Discover how finance professionals can leverage emerging AI capabilities, from autonomous assistance to advanced data visualization, making this episode essential for anyone looking to stay ahead in the data-driven future.

------SHOW NOTES------

- Microsoft Excel Python Integration Documentation
- Mockaroo Random Data Generator: https://www.mockaroo.com
- Kaggle Datasets: https://www.kaggle.com/datasets
- Microsoft Copilot for Excel
- Claude by Anthropic: https://claude.ai
- ChatGPT Code Interpreter
- Power BI
- Google Colab for Python
- Follow Richard Nero on LinkedIn for Copilot insights

------ CHAPTERS------

- (00:00:27) - Overview of keynote topics and AI's role in strategic decisions
- (00:03:16) - Framework for understanding different data tasks and AI capabilities
- (00:07:05) - Real-world examples of machine learning algorithms and implementations
- (00:24:31) - Introduction to Python in Excel and practical demonstrations
- (00:32:19) - Updates on AI tools including ChatGPT, Claude, and Copilot
- (00:43:36) - Framework for selecting appropriate AI tools for data analysis
- (00:52:19) - Call to action and practical steps to get started with AI

For more, head over to www.adamshilton.com

Tired of that sinking feeling when you remember something important weeks too late? In this must-listen episode, learn a proven four-step framework for remembering everything, even during your busiest times. Through honest stories of costly mistakes – including a missed presentation and lost business deal – discover how these failures led to developing a foolproof system for capturing and managing information.

Transform how you handle both incoming requests and internal ideas with a practical, tech-powered approach built on creating a digital "mind hub," establishing seamless capture processes, smart prioritization, and strategic review routines. Using popular tools like Notion, Evernote, or OneNote, you'll learn exactly how to build a system that ensures nothing important slips through the cracks again, all while reducing your mental load and staying on top of what truly matters.

For more, head over to www.adamshilton.com

In this insightful keynote from the Grow CFO Global Finance Summit, tech expert Adam Shilton delivers a comprehensive framework for successful technology adoption in finance teams. From quantum computing's impact on future tech decisions to the latest in generative AI, Shilton breaks down why delaying tech adoption can sometimes be advantageous and how to avoid common pitfalls. The presentation focuses on practical frameworks for assessing, selecting, and implementing technology solutions while emphasizing the importance of thorough testing and pilot programs before full deployment.

———Show Notes———

Resources mentioned:

- G2 Software Review Platform: [https://www.g2.com](https://www.g2.com/)
- Grow CFO Slack Community (Join link available through Grow CFO)
- Book Reference: "Decisive: How to Make Better Decisions in Life and Work" by Chip and Dan Heath

Tools Mentioned:

- Copilot for Microsoft 365
- Claude AI
- Excel Labs
- Otter (transcription tool)
- Loom (video recording/documentation)

———Chapters———

- (00:00:00) - Introduction to Adam Shilton podcast and technology adoption best practices
- (00:03:07) - Overview of recent innovations in tech and quantum computing basics
- (00:11:02) - Discussion of generative AI advances and cost evolution
- (00:21:27) - Virtual hands vs. virtual brains: Understanding automation and AI tools
- (00:25:49) - Framework introduction: Start from zero approach to tech adoption
- (00:31:01) - Analyzing complexity in processes before implementing new technology
- (00:35:23) - Research methodology and integration considerations for new technology
- (00:41:45) - Decision-making process and importance of pilot programs
- (00:44:42) - Implementation phases and key project roles for successful deployment
- (00:48:21) - Closing thoughts on AI's role in future strategic decisions

Ever feel like you’re drowning in notifications, emails, and social media pulls? In this episode, Adam reveals his three-step “indistractable” framework to help you reclaim control. From denoising your digital life to time-limiting addictive apps, get ready to refocus on what truly matters.

In this enlightening episode, Adam Shilton sits down with Hasan Kubba, bestselling author and expert in helping entrepreneurs become published authors. They delve into the world of unfair advantages, AI's impact on content creation, and the enduring value of traditional publishing. Hassan shares insider tips on book writing, establishing thought leadership, and positioning oneself at the top of the robot curve through creative work.

The conversation takes unexpected turns, exploring the use of AI in content creation, the importance of authenticity, and the future of digital real estate. Hassan offers valuable insights on recognizing and leveraging unfair advantages, while Adam shares his experiences with AI-assisted content creation. This episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to level up their life through technology, productivity, and creative thinking.

———SHOW NOTES———

- Connect with Hasan - https://www.linkedin.com/in/startuphasan/ 
- Visit Hasan’s Website - https://www.hasankubba.com/ 

———CHAPTERS———

(00:00:00) - Introduction to Hassan Kubba and the podcast theme
(00:03:43) - Discussing unfair advantages and their importance in success
(00:07:54) - Exploring the impact of AI on content creation
(00:14:14) - The future of digital real estate and AI-powered search
(00:20:18) - Insights on book writing and establishing thought leadership
(00:27:39) - Leveraging AI tools for content creation without losing authenticity
(00:35:34) - The importance of finding your unique voice in content
(00:41:35) - Practical tips for using AI in writing and content production
(00:50:55) - Hassan's journey from digital nomad to author and coach
(00:56:50) - Concluding thoughts and where to find Hassan Kubba

P.S - For more goodies, head over to www.adamshilton.com 

In this episode of the Adam Shilton Podcast, we explore the innovative concept of 'time sandwiches' and how it can help you eliminate burnout and boost productivity. By strategically placing intentional space before and after your tasks and meetings, you can create a protective bubble that fosters preparation, reflection, and growth. Adam Shilton, a top voice technologist and speaker, breaks down this 3-step framework to help you integrate time sandwiches into your daily routine. Tune in to discover how to align your schedule with your goals and end each day feeling accomplished and ready for the next challenge.

Links:

- FREE Notion Time Sandwich Productivity system here - https://www.adamshilton.com/pl/2148467010

Chapters:

00:00:00 Chapter 1 - Introduction to the Adam Shilton Podcast.
00:00:24 Chapter 2 - The pitfalls of traditional time blocking.
00:00:59 Chapter 3 - The importance of including space in your schedule.
00:01:25 Chapter 4 - Concept of time sandwiches and their benefits.
00:02:22 Chapter 5 - Creating a protective bubble around your core activities.
00:02:54 Chapter 6 - The role of mindset and intentionality in productivity.
00:03:40 Chapter 7 - Detailed 3-step framework: Block, Prepare, Reflect.
00:05:13 Chapter 8 - Practical guide to creating your first time sandwich.
00:06:10 Chapter 9 - Additional resources and tools for implementing time sandwiches.
00:06:36 Chapter 10 - Closing thoughts and call to action.