Sounil Yu joins the #lifeafterCISO podcast and shares the idea of "retiring many times". Sounil is the renowned author of the Cyber Defense Matrix and lauded by the CISO community for his ability to step back and view problems in a new light. Host Jerry Perullo and Sounil go on to look at the Equifax breach from a new angle, talk about CISO accountability, and finally offer up their early thoughts on the Twitter whistleblower report.

01:43 Returning to work as a CISO

10:30 Do CISOs spend too much time on tech?

11:38 CDM and the Equifax breach

15:00 CISO accountability

19:45 The Twitter whistleblower complaint

Learn more about Sounil and his work at https://www.cyberdefensematrix.com/

An essential part of moving on from a long tech career is just figuring out when the time is right. Join host Jerry Perullo and retired Netflix CISO Jason Chan for a discussion about picking your time, "Identity Management" after retirement, and the Psychology of Happiness.

Links to the material discussed by Jason Chan include:

https://arthurbrooks.com/podcast_show/the-art-of-happiness-with-arthur-brooks/

https://www.coursera.org/learn/the-science-of-well-being

In this Episode host Jerry Perullo talking about cybersecurity in higher education. A Professor of the Practice in the Georgia Tech School of Cyber Security and Privacy, Perullo thinks aloud on the challenges that have prevented cyber from taking off at the undergraduate level before focusing on specific steps you might take to pursue this career path.

00:00:55 A Brief History of Cyber in Higher Ed

00:03:11 The Archetype Cyber Curriculum

00:08:03 Enter the CISO: t-5

00:13:25 When You Are Ready to Take the Leap

00:16:01 Is It Worth It?

In this episode we are talking about Angel Investing, Advisory Work, and how they are essentially the same thing when you get down to it. Hear some details about evaluating opportunities, structuring "deals", and avoiding mistakes along the way.

00:05:37 Don’t Screw Up - Riding VC Paper, the FAST Agreement, Option Vesting,...

00:21:26 Win - Playing to your Strengths

00:24:11 Diversify - Frequency and Volume to Avoid Black Swans

00:30:17 Conflicts & Disclosure

In this episode, host Jerry Perullo explores the opportunities and challenges for retiring tech executives and CISOs in the Board room. Hear about how Boards need business leaders first and specialists second, and what you can do today to groom yourself in that very direction.

01:57 Background

07:45 The Traditional Board Director

09:50 Episode BLUF

10:19 Landing a Seat

14:32 Your Board Profile

16:08 t-3: What You Should do Now

28:40 Recap

In this introductory episode, host Jerry Perullo talks about the range of opportunities available to tech executives after the day job. Perullo leverages his 20 years of experience as the founding CISO of ICE and the New York Stock Exchange to discuss what you can do 3-5 years before leaving your post to get prepared.

00:08:43 Advisory Work

00:13:20 Consulting

00:16:00 Angel Investing

00:25:05 Board Directorship

00:35:12 Entrepreneurship

00:37:06 Teaching

00:39:12 Volunteering