Co-host Brad Forsythe interviews Jon Fine, media columnist for Business Week Magazine. Prior to his arrival at BusinessWeek, Fine was the media reporter for Advertising Age, where he covered the magazine and newspaper industries. Previously, his freelance work has appeared in GQ, Spin, ESPN The Magazine, Columbia Journalism Review, and Newsday, where he wrote the “Pushing 30” column. Fine has appeared or been quoted on a broad range of media-related issues on media outlets ranging from CNN to Entertainment Tonight to National Public Radio to the New York Times.
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Ray Schilens: It's Ray Schilens and Brad Forsythe on The Advertising Show, where you do hear that commercial. Our special guest out of New York City this weekend is Jon Fine, the media columnist for Business Week magazine. I spoke to Jon just a few moments ago and he said, "You called me Joe." And I said, "Well I'm sorry, Bob" [laughs]. So, Jon Fine, welcome to The Advertising Show, when we promise to get your first name right.
Jon Fine: Fabulous.
Ray Schilens: For the rest of the show. Now after the show, that's another story, ok.
Brad Forsythe: Yeah, did you see that guy on the show this past weekend, you know, Bill?
Ray Schilens: No, his name is Jon, but anyway, welcome to The Advertising Show, Jon. It's nice to have you here.
Jon Fine: It's great to be here be here, guys.
Brad Forsythe: Yeah, and Ray, I had the pleasure of looking at a little longer bio than you're looking at there, and Fine's apparently background with bands, which is right up your alley, Ray, because you're a former band member yourself. This guy has not only released CDs, but just to date himself, he's released LPs, and performed in 10 foreign countries.
Jon Fine: Well, that includes Canada, which I guess counts as a foreign country.
Brad Forsythe: Well, and of course, we've all performed in Mexico, but that's a whole 'nother program.
Jon Fine: What happens in Mexico.
Brad Forsythe: So you were in bands, Jon?
Jon Fine: Yeah, I continue to be, actually.
Brad Forsythe: And born in Texas, by the way, right? Raised in, as they say, the wild suburbs of New Jersey. Any CDs out we would know about, any bands that we would know?
Jon Fine: Certainly. I was performing with a band called Don Cavajero in the late 90s so I released a couple of records and previous to that, I was in a band, forgive the name, Bitch Magnet, which also had several CDs out, which, I believe are actually also available on Amazon.com and places like that.
Brad Forsythe: You know, it's interesting, you talk about, we were talking about the Grammy's last segment, Bono(mispronounces) and U2, they did some.
Ray Schilens: Bono.
Brad Forsythe: Bono?
Jon Fine: Bill, Bob, whatever his name is.
Brad Forsythe: Yeah, you're right, Joe, I think it is. Anyway, my wife heard this particular song he performed there on the Grammy's and she goes, "That's the song from that iPod commercial, isn't it?" [laughs] Of course, my wife's a little younger than myself and she also likes to say, "I know Paul McCartney was in a band before, I've heard Wings.".
Ray Schilens: I know she knows of the Beatles, now come on.
Brad Forsythe: Yeah, let's get some inside scoop. You use to work for AdAge, who'd you piss off at Crain to no longer be working there?
Jon Fine: Oh, no, no, no, no. All of them I think at one point or another.
Ray Schilens: Well that's good for you,