Alicia is joined by Monique Davidson, (outgoing CEO of Central Hawkes Bay District Council and incoming CEO to Horowhenua District Council) and Alex Walker,(Mayor of CentralHawkes Bay)to talk about how to master the relationship between governance and management to drive results.Monique and Alex achieved incredible success in transforming not just their organisation, but the relationship between Council and community. They put their results down to the quality and openness of their relationship and a commitment to shared outcomes. This is a fresh, helpful conversation between two incredible leaders that is well worth listening to!