The Michigan Department of Natural Resources recently ended its long-running frog and toad survey, much to the chagrin of the program's dedicated volunteers. The survey, which had been running for nearly three decades was the brainchild of Lori Sargent, who worked as a non-game wildlife biologist at the department for decades. Today on the pod, we hear about the story behind this popular citizen science project.  

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Lori Sargent, retired Michigan DNR wildlife biologist 

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