Wicked Problems - Climate Tech Conversations

The Apocalyptic Optimist: Dana R. Fisher


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Author of Saving Ourselves, Professor Dana R. Fisher of American University, helps make sense of where we are as 2024 comes towards its close. And the dilemma that it will have to get worse before it gets better, but there's no other realistic way through.


In this episode, we delve into the pressing issue of climate shocks, which are intensified by climate change and manifest as floods, fires, heat waves, and droughts. As we approach 2025, these disasters are expected to become more frequent and severe across the globe. Join us for an insightful discussion on how these climatic events are already affecting our world and what we can expect in the near future. Happy holidays to everyone, despite the serious topic at hand.


00:00 Introduction and Welcome

00:45 Upcoming Content and Announcements

01:51 Climate Tech and UK Leadership

03:03 Realizations and Reflections on Climate Goals

07:11 Introducing Professor Dana Fisher

07:28 Discussion with Professor Dana Fisher

07:52 The Concept of Apocalyptic Optimism

10:06 The Role of Disasters in Climate Mobilization

14:11 The Anthro Shift Theory

21:14 Political Dynamics and Climate Policy

40:31 Climate Policy and Political Ideologies

41:02 Impact of Climate Shocks on Policy Support

41:16 Challenges of Misinformation and Conspiracy Theories

42:12 Community Resilience and Local Support

42:43 Political Responses to Climate Disasters

44:07 Scientific Analysis and Public Perception

44:49 Relational Connections and Effective Communication

52:29 Lessons from Historical Movements

01:01:58 Building Community Resilience

01:06:00 Hope and Optimism in Climate Action

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