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Our interview with Avery Trufelman is tactical. Avery—host and producer of the podcast Articles of Interest—took a quick breather from wrapping the new season of her show focusing on military and outdoor clothing which premieres October 22nd to join her brothers in arms to pontificate on digging through the camo archives, the history of Banana Republic, Tyler the Creator being a fan of her work, naming all members of the Antwerp Six, the human mind finds ways to fuck around, transactional relationships with brands, the love triangle at the heart of her show's new season, American archetypes, the women behind the military's fashion department, this might be a shocker but the army is a bad client, clothing contracts as predictors of the future, supporting the troops and rooting for the clothes, here's another shocker but conventions suck, hearing both sides, when stolen valor is weirdly acceptable, finding common ground in clothing, gear vs. fashion, Americans been shopping, Teddy Roosevelt's assault on nature, performative males, the invention of layering, the triumph of gear, field jacket supremacy, special ops influencers, the camo wars, being an indoor cat with a rain hood, landing on Time's 100 greatest podcasts of all time list, and much more on Avery Trufelman's interview with The Only Podcast That Matters™.