In this compelling podcast episode, I sit down with Phil Fontaine, the esteemed former Chief of the Assembly of First Nations, for an in-depth conversation about his life, including the harrowing legacy of residential schools. Phil shares his personal experiences and the profound impact these church and government run institutions had on Indigenous families, aiming to erase Native culture, language, and connections. He poignantly reflects on his own Ojibwe upbringing, growing up with his loving parents, twelve siblings, and extended family all under one roof. Through his storytelling, Phil reveals the strength he draws from his family bonds, his enduring sense of humor that helps him navigate the dark times, and his deep appreciation for the vibrant Native culture that continues to enrich his life. This interview offers a powerful glimpse into both the pain and resilience that define Phil's journey and the broader Indigenous experience.