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  • S2021E66 - Episode 66: Hall of Fame Class of 1994
    Episode Notes

    Lionel Conacher:

    • NHL: 1925-37; 12 seasons, 10 quality
    • Totals:
    • 78G (10th D All Time at his retirement),
    • 108A (5th D All Time at his retirement) for
    • 186P (7th D All Time at his retirement) in
    • 498 Games (16th All Time at his retirement, 4th D);
    • 65.5 PS (9th All Time at his retirement, 5th D)
    • At his retirement, Conacher was 8th All Time in Defensive Point Shares and 4th All Time in Offensive Point Shares among D and
    • Per Game: Conacher obviously doesn’t qualify for the leader boards, but if the qualifier is set to 410 Games (5 modern seasons), among D Conacher is
    • 5th All Time in GPG
    • 4th All Time in APG
    • 5th All Time in PPG
    • Not drafted
    • Era: Of the 11 D to play in at least 410 games (5 modern seasons) between 1925 and 1937, Conacher is
    • 4th in Goals and GPG
    • 4th in Assists and APG
    • 4th in Points and PPG
    • 3rd in Offensive Point Shares
    • 6th in Defensive Point Shares
    • 3rd in Point Shares
    • 82-game average: 13G, 18A for 30P
    • 3-year peak (1933-36): 48-game average of 6G, 10A for 16P; 4.2 PS
    • No possession stats obviously
    • Playoffs:
    • 2G,
    • 2A for 
    • 4P in
    • 35 Games
    • Harry Watson:

      • NHL: 1941-43, 1945-57; 14 seasons, 9 quality by modern standards of PPG
      • Totals:
      • 236G (12th All Time at his retirement),
      • 207A for
      • 443P (19th All Time at his retirement) in
      • 809 Games (3rd All Time at his retirement);
      • 45.3 PS
      • Per Game: At his retirement, Watson was
      • 25th All Time in GPG
      • Not drafted
      • Era: Of the 17 players to play in at least 656 games (8 modern seasons), between 1941 and 1957, Watson is
      • 5th in Goals
      • 6th in GPG
      • 12th in Assists
      • 13th in APG (though he doesn’t qualify for the APG leader-boards)
      • 6th in Points
      • 9th in PPG (though he doesn’t qualify for the PPG leader-boards)
      • 7th in Offensive Point Shares
      • 10th (4th forward) in Defensive Point Shares
      • 12th in Point Shares
      • 82-game average: 24G, 21A for 45P
      • 3-year peak (1946-49): 60-game average of 25G, 20A for 45P
      • No possession stats
      • Playoffs:
      • 16G (t-25th All Time at his retirement),
      • 9A for
      • 26P in
      • 62 Games
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        43 min
      • S2021E65 - Episode 65: Hall of Fame Class of 1995
        Episode Notes

        Larry Robinson:

        • 1972-1992; 20 seasons, 19 quality
        • Totals:
        • 208G (20th D All Time, 10th D at his retirement),
        • 750A (9th D All time, 2nd D at his retirement) for
        • 958P (9th D All Time, 4th D at his retirement),
        • +722 (1st All Time) in 
        • 1384 Games (15th D All Time, 3rd D at his retirement);
        • 169.5 PS (21st All Time, 1st D All Time at his retirement) 
        • 4th All Time in Defensive Point Shares (1st at his retirement)
        • 17th D All Time in Offensive Point Shares (6th D at his retirement)
        • Per Game: 
        • 21st D All Time in GPG (10th D at his retirement)
        • 20th D All Time in APG (19th D at his retirement)
        • 20th D All Time in PPG (16th D at his retirement)
        • Draft: Drafted 20th overall in 1971, Robinson is
        • 7th in Goals
        • 3rd in Assists
        • 3rd in Points
        • 1st in Plus/Minus (by 276)
        • 1st in Point Shares
        • 1st in Games
        • Era: Of the 9 D to play in at least 984 games (12 modern seasons) between 1972 and 1992, Robinson is
        • 2nd in Goals
        • 2nd in GPG
        • 1st in Assists
        • 4th in APG
        • 2nd in Points
        • 2nd in PPG
        • 1st in Plus/Minus (by 266)
        • 2nd in Offensive Point Shares
        • 1st in Defensive Point Shares (by nearly 30)
        • 1st in Point Shares
        • 82-game average: 12G, 44A for 57P, + 43
        • 3-year peak (1976-79): 80-game average of 17G, 58A for 75P, +86
        • Frederick "Bun" Cook:

          • 1926-37; 11 seasons, 8 quality
          • Totals:
          • 158G (13th All Time at his retirement), 
          • 144A (10th) for 
          • 293P (10th) in 
          • 433 games (21st); 
          • 51.7 PS (14th)
          • At his retirement, Cook was 12th All Time in Offensive Point Shares
          • Per Game: Cook obviously doesn’t qualify; however, if the qualifier is set at 300 games, at his retirement, Cook was 
          • 16th All Time in GPG, 
          • 13th in APG and 
          • 17th in PPG
          • Era: Of the 35 players to play in at least 400 games between 1926 and 37, Cook is 
          • 6th in Goals and APG, 
          • 7th in GPG, Assists and Points, 
          • 8th in PPG and OPS, 
          • 11th in PS and 
          • 13th in Games
          • 82-game average: 27G, 25A for 52P
          • 3-year peak (1929-32): 44-game average of 19G, 18A for 37P
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            1 hr
          • S1E64 - Episode 64: Hall of Fame Class of 1996
            Episode Notes

            Salming: 1973-90; 17 seasons, all quality

            • Totals:
            • 150G (17th D All Time at his retirement),
            • 637A (15th D All Time, 6th at his retirement) for
            • 787P (17th D All Time, 7th at his retirement),
            • +170 in
            • 1148 games (8th D All Time at his retirement);
            • 112.8 PS (9th D at his retirement)
            • Salming was 10th All Time in Offensive Point Shares among D at his retirement
            • Salming was 16th All Time in Defensive Point Shares at his retirement
            • Per game: Among D, Salming is
            • 18th All time in APG
            • 20th All Time in PPG
            • Era: Of the 12 D to play in at least 902 games (11 modern seasons) between 1973 and 1990, Salming is
            • 5th in Goals
            • 6th in GPG
            • 3rd in Assists
            • 3rd in APG
            • 3rd in Points
            • 4th in PPG
            • 4th in Plus/Minus
            • 3rd in Offensive Point Shares
            • 3rd in Defensive Point Shares
            • 3rd in Point Shares
            • 82-game average: 11G, 45A for 57P, +12
            • 3-year peak (1976-79): 80-game average of 15G, 62A for 78P, +36
            • No possession stats
            • Playoffs:
            • 12G (25th D All Time at his retirement),
            • 37A for
            • 49P,
            • -11 in
            • 81 Games
            • Per Game: At his retirement, Salming was
            • 23rd All Time among D in playoff APG
            • Era: Of the 112 D to play in at least 41 playoff games between 1973 and 1990, Salming is
            • 19th in Goals
            • 21st in GPG
            • 19th in Assists
            • 18th in APG
            • 19th in Points
            • 22nd in PPG
            • 92nd in Plus/Minus
            • Bauer: 1936-1942, 1945-47 (plus a 1 game comeback in 1951-2); 8 seasons, 7 quality

              Totals:
              123G, 
              137A for 
              260P in 
              327 games; 
              32 PS
              Per Game: Bauer doesn’t qualify; however, if the qualifier is set at 300 games played, at his initial retirement in 1947, Bauer was 
              18th in GPG, 
              11th in APG and 
              13th in PPG
              Era: Of the 48 players to have played in at least 300 games between 1936 and 1947, Bauer is 
              18th in Goals, 
              11th in GPG and APG, 
              21st in Points and PS, 
              13th in PPG, 
              14th in OPS, and 
              40th in Games
              82-game average: 31G, 34A for 66P
              3-year peak (1939-42): 48-game average of 17G, 26A for 44P
              Playoffs: 
              11G, 
              8A for 
              19P in 
              48 games

              • Per Game: doesn’t qualify
              • Era: Of the 38 skaters to play in at least 41 playoff games between 1936 and 1947, Bauer is
              • 18th in Goals
              • 16th in GPG
              • 30th in Assists
              • 30th in APG
              • 22nd in Points
              • 25th in PPG
              • 24th in Games
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                45 min
              • S1E63 - Episode 63: Hall of Fame Class of 1997
                Episode Notes

                Trottier:

                • 1975-94; 18 seasons, 15 quality
                • Totals:
                • 524G (15th All Time at his retirement),
                • 901A (19th All Time, 6th at his retirement) for
                • 1425P (17th All Time, 6th at his retirement),
                • +449 (9th All Time, 8th at his retirement) in
                • 1279 Games (17th at his retirement);
                • 120.2 PS (23rd at his retirement)
                • Trottier was 18th All Time in Offensive Point Shares at his retirement)
                • Per Game:
                • 23rd All Time in APG
                • 22nd All Time in PPG
                • Draft: Drafted 22nd overall in 1974, Trottier is
                • 1st in Goals (by over 100)
                • 1st in Assists (by over 350)
                • 1st in Points (by over 600)
                • 1st in Plus/Minus (by nearly 50)
                • 1st in Point Shares
                • 1st in Games (by nearly 250)
                • Era: Of the 17 skaters to play in at least 1066 games (13 modern seasons) between 1974 and 1994, Trottier is
                • 5th in Goals
                • 6th in GPG
                • 2nd in Assists
                • 5th in APG
                • 3rd in Points
                • 4th in PPG
                • 4th in Plus/Minus
                • 3rd in Offensive Point Shares
                • 9th in Defensive Point Shares (1st Forward)
                • 6th in Point Shares (3rd Forward)
                • 82-game average: 34G, 57A for 91P, +29
                • 3-year peak (1977-80): 80-game average of 47G, 78A for 125P, +55
                • Lemieux:

                  • 1984-97, 2000-06; 16 seasons, 11 quality
                  • Totals:
                  • 690G (10th All Time),
                  • 1033A (11th) for
                  • 1723P (8th),
                  • +115 in
                  • 915 games;
                  • 167.9 PS (21st);
                  • 4th All Time in Offensive Point Shares
                  • Per Game: 
                  • 3rd All Time in GPG (Lemieux held the career GPG record from the 1992-93 season until the 2005 lockout)
                  • 2nd in APG and PPG (Lemieux held the career PPG record from the 1997-98 season until the 2002-03 season)
                  • 22:40 ATOI (5 seasons)
                  • Draft: Drafted in 1984, Lemieux, drafted 1st overall, is 
                  • 2nd in Goals and 
                  • 1st in Assists 
                  • 1st in Points
                  • 7th in Plus/Minus
                  • 2nd in Point Shares (1st Forward)
                  • 19th in Games
                  • Era:
                  • First Era: Of the 137 players to play in at least 700 games between 1984 and 1997, Lemieux is 
                  • 1st in Goals, GPG, and PPG, 
                  • 2nd in Assists, APG, Points and OPS, and 
                  • 3rd in PS, 
                  • despite being 108th in Games
                  • Return: Of the hundreds of players to play in at least 150 games between 2000 and 2006, Lemieux is 
                  • 130th in Goals
                  • 10th in GPG, 
                  • 82nd in Assists
                  • 2nd in APG and 
                  • 90th in Points
                  • 1st in PPG
                  • (not in the top 200 in Plus/Minus)
                  • 66th in Offensive Point Shares
                  • 142nd in Point Shares
                  • While not in the Top 200 in Games Played
                  • 82-game average: 62G, 93A for 155P, +10
                  • 3-year peak (1987-90): 82-game average of 76G, 112A for 188P, +18
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                    1 hr 11 min
                  • S1E62 - Episode 62: Hall of Fame Class of 1998
                    Episode Notes

                    Stastny:

                    • 1980-95; 15 seasons, 13 quality
                    • Totals:
                    • 450G,
                    • 789A  (18th All Time at his retirement) for
                    • 1239P (17th All Time at his retirement),
                    • -15 in
                    • 977 Games;
                    • 94.1 PS
                    • Per Game:
                    • 7th All Time in APG
                    • 8th All Time in PPG
                    • Undrafted - of the hundreds of undrafted players since expansion, Stastny is
                    • 5th in Goals
                    • 9th in GPG
                    • 3rd in Assists
                    • 4th in APG
                    • 4th in Points
                    • 4th in PPG
                    • Who knows in Plus/Minus (since he’s a minus)
                    • 8th in Offensive Point Shares
                    • 15th in Point Shares
                    • 27th in Games
                    • Ea: Of the 50 skaters to play in at least 902 games (11 modern seasons) between 1980 and 1995, Stastny is
                    • 11th in Goals and GPG
                    • 8th in Assists
                    • 3rd in APG
                    • 7th in Points
                    • 2nd in PPG
                    • 33rd in Plus/Minus
                    • 9th in Offensive Point Shares
                    • 12th in Point Shares
                    • 82-game average: 38G, 66A for 104P, -1
                    • 3-year peak (1981-84): 80-game average of 48G, 83A for 130P, +14
                    • Goulet:

                      • 1979-94; 15 seasons, all quality
                      • Totals:
                      • 548G (11th All Time),
                      • 605A for
                      • 1153P (25th,
                      • +99 in
                      • 1089 Games
                      • Per Game:
                      • 19th All Time in GPG
                      • Draft: Drafted 20th overall in 1979, Goulet is
                      • 3rd in Goals
                      • 6th in Assists
                      • 4th in Points
                      • 13th in Plus/Minus
                      • 4th in Point Shares
                      • 11th in Games
                      • Era: Of the 9 skaters to play in at least 984 games (12 seasons) between 1979 and 1994, Goulet is
                      • 4th in Goals
                      • 4th in GPG
                      • 10th in Assists
                      • 12th in APG
                      • 9th in Points
                      • 8th in PPG
                      • 13th in Plus/Minus
                      • 9th in Offensive Point Shares
                      • 10th in Point Shares
                      • 82-game average: 41G, 46A for 61P, +7
                      • Roy Conacher:

                        • 1938-52; 11 seasons, 10 quality
                        • Totals:
                        • 226G (11th All Time at his retirement),
                        • 201A for
                        • 427P (17th) in
                        • 490 Games;
                        • 50.8 PS;
                        • 18th All Time in Offensive Point Shares
                        • Per Game: At his retirement, Conacher was
                        • 9th All Time in GPG
                        • Era: Of the 34 skaters to play in 410 games (5 modern seasons) between 1938-52, Conacher is
                        • 2nd in Goals and GPG
                        • 15th in Assists
                        • 14th in APG
                        • 9th in Points
                        • 6th in PPG
                        • 2nd in Offensive Point Shares
                        • 5th in Point Shares
                        • 18th in Games
                        • 82-game average: 38G, 34A for 71P
                        • 3-year peak (1946-49): 60-game average of 27G, 32A for 59P
                        • Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co

                          1 hr 3 min
                        • S1E61 - Episode 61: Class of 1999: Wayne Gretzky
                          Episode Notes
                          • NHL: 1979-99; 20 seasons, all quality
                          • Totals:
                          • 894G (1st All Time - Gretzky is ahead by 93 goals),
                          • 1963A (1st - Gretzky is ahead by over 700 assists) for
                          • 2857P (1st - Gretzky is head by nearly 1000 points), 
                          • +518 (4th) in
                          • 1487 games (18th);
                          • 251 PS (1st)
                          • Gretzky is the career leader in Offensive Point Shares (he’s ahead by nearly 40 OPS, which is a decent NHL career)
                          • Per Game:
                          • 7th All Time in GPG (Gretzky held the career record for GPG from the 1982-83 season till the 1989-90 season) and
                          • 1st in APG (Gretzky is ahead of Lemieux by nearly .2 assists per game) and
                          • 1st in PPG
                          • 21:04 ATOI (minutes were tracked for only the final season of Gretzky's career)
                          • Draft: undrafted; there’s nothing really to talk about here
                          • Era: Come on...it's Gretzky, we don't need to know how he compares to his era
                          • 82-game average: 50G, 108A for 145P, +29
                          • 3-year peak (1983-86): 82-game average of 75G, 145A for 220P
                          • Playoffs:
                          • Totals:
                          • 122G (1st All Time),
                          • 260A (1st - Gretzky is ahead by nearly 80 assists) for
                          • 382P (1st - Gretzky is ahead by nearly 100 points) in
                          • 208 games (16th)
                          • Per Game: Gretzky is
                          • 6th All time in playoff GPG (He held the career playoff GPG record from 1987 until 1991)
                          • 1st in APG (Gretzky is ahead by over .3 APG) and
                          • 1st in PPG (Gretzky is ahead by over .2 PPG)
                          • Era: Be serious!
                          • 1 hr 1 min
                          • S1E60 - Episode 60: Savard and Mullen
                            Episode Notes

                            Savard:

                            • 1980-97; 17 seasons, 16 quality
                            • Totals:
                            • 473G,
                            • 865A (24th All Time, 13th at his retirement) for
                            • 1338P (17th All Time at his retirement),
                            • +103 in
                            • 1196 Games;
                            • 105.2 PS
                            • Per Game:
                            • 20th All Time in APG
                            • 19th All Time in PPG
                            • Draft: Drafted 3rd overall in 1980, Savard is
                            • 3rd in Goals
                            • 3rd in Assists
                            • 3rd in Points
                            • 8th in Plus/Minus
                            • 6th in Point Shares (4th Forward)
                            • 5th in Games Played
                            • Era: Of the 14 players, to play in at least 1,148 games (14 seasons) between 1980 and 1997 (12 of whom are in the HOF), Savard is
                            • 7th in Goals and GPG
                            • 7th in Assists and APG
                            • 7th in Points and PPG
                            • 10th in Plus/Minus
                            • 9th in Offensive Point Shares (7th Forward)
                            • 10th in Defensive Point Shares (4th Forward)
                            • 9th in Point Shares (6th Forward)
                            • 82-game average: 33G, 59A for 92A, +7
                            • 3-year peak (1987-90): 80-game average of 37G, 80A for 117P, +3 [Savard’s best 3 seasons are 6 years apart]
                            • Mullen:

                              • 1981-97; 16 seasons, 14 quality
                              • Totals:
                              • 502G (5th American All Time; 25th All Time at his retirement, 1st American-born player)
                              • 561A (4th American-born player at his retirement) for
                              • 1063P (1st American-born player All Time at his retirement),
                              • +167 (6th American-born player at his retirement) in
                              • 1062 Games;
                              • 91.2 PS (5th American-born player All Time at his retirement)
                              • At his retirement, Mullen was 3rd All Time among American-born players in Offensive Point Shares
                              • Per Game:
                              • 4th American All Time in GPG
                              • 5th American All Time in PPG
                              • Draft: Undrafted - among all undrafted skaters (since expansion) Mullen is
                              • 4th in Goals
                              • 8th in GPG
                              • 10th in Assists
                              • 19th in APG
                              • 7th in Points
                              • 13th in PPG
                              • 28th in Plus/Minus
                              • 9th in Offensive Point Shares
                              • 18th in Defensive Point Shares among Forwards
                              • 17th in Point Shares
                              • 13th in Games Played
                              • Era: Of the 37 skaters to play in 984 Games (12 seasons) between 1981 and 1997, Mullen is
                              • 9th in Goals
                              • 7th in GPG
                              • 22nd in Assists
                              • 19th in APG
                              • 15th in Points
                              • 14th in PPG
                              • 17th in Plus/Minus
                              • 15th in Offensive Point Shares
                              • 27th in Defensive Point Shares (12th Forward)
                              • 19th in Point Shares
                              • 82-game average: 39G, 43A for 82P, +13
                              • 3-year peak (1986-89): 80-game average of 46G, 48A for 92P, +33 [Mullen’s three best seasons are nearly a decade apart]
                              • 0 min
                              • S1E59 - Episode 59: Conn Smythe Winners not in the Hall of Fame
                                Episode Notes

                                Goring:

                                • 1969-85; 16 seasons, 14 quality
                                • Totals:
                                • 375G,
                                • 513A for
                                • 888P,
                                • -26 in
                                • 1107 Games;
                                • 69.5 PS
                                • Draft: Drafted 51st overall in 1969, Goring is
                                • 1st in Goals
                                • 2nd in Assists
                                • 2nd in Points
                                • 31st in Plus/Minus
                                • 4th in Point Shares
                                • 2nd in Games
                                • Era: Of the 9 skaters to play in at least 984 Games (12 modern seasons) between 1969 and 1985, Goring is
                                • 5th in Goals and GPG
                                • 6th in Assists
                                • 7th (3rd last) in APG
                                • 5th in Points
                                • 7th (3rd last) in PPG
                                • 7th (3rd last) in Plus/Minus
                                • 6th in Offensive Point Shares
                                • 7th (6th Forward) in Defensive Point Shares
                                • 6th in Point Shares
                                • 82-game average: 28G, 38A for 66P, -2
                                • 3-year peak (1976-79): 80-game average of 34G, 48A for 82P, -5
                                • No possession stats
                                • Playoffs:
                                • 38G
                                • 50A for 
                                • 88P,
                                • +22 in
                                • 134 Games (21st All Time at his retirement)
                                • Richards:

                                  • 2000-16; 15 years, 13 quality
                                  • Totals:
                                  • 298G,
                                  • 634A for
                                  • 932P, 
                                  • -66 in
                                  • 1126 GP;
                                  • 92.8 PS;
                                  • 19:55 ATOI
                                  • Draft: Drafted 64th overall in 1998, Richards is
                                  • 3rd in Goals
                                  • 1st in Assists
                                  • 2nd in Points
                                  • 3rd last in Plus/Minus
                                  • 5th in Point Shares
                                  • 3rd in Games Played
                                  • Era: Of the 12 players to play in at least 1066 games (13 seasons) between 2000 and 2016, Richards is
                                  • 9th in Goals and GPG
                                  • 3rd in Assists and APG
                                  • 6th in Points
                                  • 4th in PPG
                                  • 11th (2nd last) in Plus/Minus
                                  • 7th in Offensive Point Shares
                                  • 8th in Defensive Point Shares (7th Forward)
                                  • 8th in Point Shares
                                  • 82-game average: 21G, 46A for 68P, -5
                                  • 3-year peak (2008-11): 82-game average of [oops]
                                  • Possession (since 2007; 636 games):
                                  • 51.5% CF% 
                                  • 0.1 CF% Rel
                                  • 51.4 FF%
                                  • -0.1 FF% Rel
                                  • Playoffs:
                                  • 37G,
                                  • 68A for
                                  • 105P,
                                  • -13 in
                                  • 146 Games
                                  • Williams:

                                    • 2000-20; 19 seasons, 15 quality
                                    • Totals:
                                    • 320G
                                    • 477A for
                                    • 797P,
                                    • +110 in
                                    • 1264 Games;
                                    • 89 PS
                                    • Draft: Williams, drafted 28th overall in 2000 is
                                    • 4th in Goals
                                    • 1st in Assists
                                    • 2nd in Points
                                    • 2nd in Plus/Minus
                                    • 4th in Point Shares (3rd Forward)
                                    • 1st in Games
                                    • Era: Of the 11 players to play in at least 1230 Games (15 seasons) between 2000 and 2020, Williams is
                                    • 7th in Goals and GPG
                                    • 7th in Assists and APG
                                    • 7th in Points and PPG
                                    • 5th in Plus/Minus
                                    • 7th in Offensive Point Shares
                                    • 8th in Defensive Point Shares (6th Forward)
                                    • 8th in Point Shares
                                    • 82-game average: 21G, 31A for 52P, +7; 16:53 ATOI
                                    • 3-year peak (2005-08): 82-game average of 28G, 42A for 70P, -3; 20:41 ATOI
                                    • Possession (qualifier is 820 games, which is 85 players):
                                    • 56.9% Corsi For (2nd)
                                    • 4.5% Relative Corsi For (6th)
                                    • 56.6% Fenwick For (2nd)
                                    • 4.3% Relative Fenwick For (6th)
                                    • Playoffs:
                                    • 41G,
                                    • 61A for
                                    • 102P,
                                    • +30 in
                                    • 162 Games
                                    • 1 hr 17 min

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