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- Are AI Agents Becoming Coworkers?
AI is moving from workplace tool to workplace participant. Companies are adding AI agents to daily operations while employees question whether greater productivity will protect their jobs or accelerate their replacement. At the same time, influence lists, funding announcements, and online controversies are shaping reputations without always telling the full story behind them.
In this episode, Ben Mones, founder and CEO of Fama Technologies, joins a wide-ranging conversation about the future of work, industry credibility, AI-driven layoffs, digital coworkers, and online workplace behavior. From Google employees demanding stronger protections to a Chili’s termination becoming a national culture-war story, the episode examines what happens when technology, employment, and public identity collide.
Key Takeaways
- Industry lists can create legitimate recognition, credibility, and business opportunities. They can also function as marketing campaigns engineered to generate nominations, tags, backlinks, and social traffic.
- The value of a list depends on how people are selected. When sponsorships, payments, popularity, or audience size influence the outcome, that relationship should be disclosed. Recognition still matters, but appearing on a list is not the same as demonstrating expertise or building a successful business.
- A major funding announcement can make a startup look established before it has proven its business model. Once the attention fades, the company still needs customers, predictable revenue, sustainable growth, and a product people will continue paying for.
- AI companies face another challenge because investors have not developed the same reliable pricing and valuation playbook that shaped the SaaS market. Large investments give founders more resources, but they also create larger expectations that must eventually be supported by real performance.
- More than 4,500 Google employees signed a petition requesting guaranteed severance, voluntary buyouts before mandatory layoffs, an end to performance-review quotas, greater transparency, and fairer treatment during AI-driven restructuring.
- Their concern goes beyond layoffs. Employees are being asked to embrace AI, improve it, and incorporate it into their work without knowing whether that effort will make them more valuable or make their positions easier to eliminate. AI adoption is unlikely to stop, but companies still have a responsibility to communicate clearly and manage the transition fairly.
- Platforms such as VICTOR present AI agents as coworkers that can be onboarded, assigned responsibilities, and added to a company’s team. That framing may sound like marketing, but it reflects how some organizations are beginning to use and manage AI.
- If an agent performs meaningful work, someone must control its access, evaluate its output, and accept responsibility when it makes a mistake. AI agents may not be employees, but they still create management, security, performance, and accountability issues. The ability to manage AI labor may become as important as knowing how to use an AI tool.
- A former Chili’s employee said he was fired over a disagreement involving pronouns. Chili’s said he repeatedly harassed and intimidated a coworker after receiving multiple warnings.
- Once the employee posted his version online, an internal termination became a national culture-war story. The issue was no longer limited to what happened inside the restaurant. It became a fight over who controlled the public narrative.
- Employers must be able to separate personal beliefs from workplace conduct, document repeated behavior, and respond consistently. The internet is now an extension of the workplace when online activity affects coworkers, company culture, safety, or job performance.
1 in 15 candidates screened showed high risk patterns of behavior such as harassment, intolerance, violence, and other forms of misconduct, a 34% increase year over year.
Online Harassment / Trolling: 37.2% of flagged behavior
Intolerance: 23.9%
Sexually explicit misconduct: 17.8%
Check out this report: https://hubs.ly/Q048xBVT0
About The Guest
Ben Mones is the founder and CEO of Fama Technologies. Fama helps employers evaluate job-related online behavior in a compliant and fair way, including potential harassment, fraud, threats, and workplace misconduct.
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48 min - Korn Ferry Buys AMS, Reuters Cuts Engineers, and Work Gets Weird
Would you hold a workplace grudge for 17 years? A candidate was ready to send a cease and desist after losing out on a job, raising a bigger question about grudges, second chances, and when it’s finally time to move the hell on.
In this episode, we look at Korn Ferry’s $1.1 billion acquisition of AMS, whether workplace culture has gotten worse since COVID, and Thomson Reuters replacing 500 engineering roles while hiring 250 senior AI-native engineers. Is this a real talent strategy, or a layoff wrapped in AI language?
What we cover:
➡️ Holding a workplace grudge for 17 years probably hurts you more than the other person.
➡️ Korn Ferry’s acquisition of AMS connects executive search with high-volume hiring and RPO.
➡️ AMS gives Korn Ferry access to more predictable, recurring revenue.
➡️ The $1.1 billion price tag may be more surprising than the acquisition itself.
➡️ Workplace culture may not be worse than it was before COVID. Employees may be reacting to the return of structure.
➡️ Remote work can increase freedom, but it can also make conflict easier to avoid and harder to resolve.
➡️ Thomson Reuters plans to remove 500 engineering roles while adding 250 senior AI-native engineers.
➡️ The Thomson Reuters move could be a workforce reduction disguised as an AI talent strategy.
➡️ Companies may be underestimating how quickly experienced employees can develop new AI skills.
➡️ Barbara Marks from McAfee wins $100 on the Canditech wheel.
Timestamps:
00:00 – Malt Liquor, Misspent Youth, and Nick Returns
01:40 – Holding a Workplace Grudge for 17 Years
03:57 – Korn Ferry Acquires AMS for $1.1 Billion
05:29 – What the Acquisition Means for Recruitment Agencies
06:26 – Was AMS Sold Too Cheaply?
07:23 – Has Workplace Culture Gotten Worse Since COVID?
09:25 – When Workplace Structure Feels Like Control
10:03 – Remote Work, Collaboration, and Employee Freedom
11:10 – Conflict Behind a Keyboard
12:50 – Workplace Politics and Career Growth
14:41 – Fighting With AI Instead of Coworkers
16:38 – Thomson Reuters Cuts 500 Engineering Roles
17:02 – Why Not Retrain the Existing Engineers?
18:30 – Is This an AI Strategy or a Disguised Layoff?
20:07 – Can Engineers Close the AI Skills Gap?
21:23 – The Canditech Wheel
22:24 – Barbara Marks Wins $100
23:08 – Weddings, the World Cup, and England’s Chances
This episode is sponsored by the team at Canditech, the skill assessment platform for the AI-age
Guest : Nick Leslie, Director of Customer Success, Canditech
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29 min - Could AI Become Evidence Against Your Company?
Companies love talking about culture.
Then a manager tells an employee they should've skipped the hospital after a car accident and come back to work.
That's where this episode starts.
The conversation digs into toxic leadership, whether AI conversations could eventually become evidence in workplace lawsuits, what social media actually tells us about employees, and why some people may try to avoid AI altogether.
Along the way, there's a debate about quiet workplace cultures, companies that are honest about what it's really like to work there, and whether refusing to use AI today is the equivalent of refusing to use email twenty years ago.
Key Takeaways
Culture is what employees experience every day. A mission statement doesn't mean much if a manager's response to a workplace injury tells a different story.
Emails. Slack messages. Internal documents. AI conversations may simply become the next place lawyers go looking when questions need answers.
One post doesn't tell you much. Thirty-three posts complaining about thirty-three different companies might.
They want the culture they want.
Some people want collaboration. Some want quiet. Some want flexibility. Some want structure. The challenge is knowing the difference before accepting the job.
Amazon came up as an example. Enterprise came up as an example.
Not because everyone wants to work there, but because they tend to be clear about expectations. You know what you're signing up for.
Just understand your peers may not.
The conversation closes with a software engineer who received an accommodation to avoid using AI tools and whether that decision ultimately helps or hurts long-term performance.
Chapters:
00:00 Beer Talk, Graduation Week, and Lemonade Stands
05:09 Toxic Leadership and Workplace Injuries
09:05 Could AI Become Evidence in Future Lawsuits?
16:29 What Social Media Really Tells Us About Employees
22:02 Quiet Workplaces, Culture, and Productivity
24:00 Companies That Tell the Truth About Culture
26:58 Religious Accommodations and AI
33:45 SHRM, the Candy Wheel, and Closing Thoughts
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37 min - AI Is Eliminating Entry-Level Jobs. Who Trains Tomorrow’s Experts?
Everyone’s excited about AI replacing tasks. Almost nobody is talking about what happens when there’s nobody left to learn those tasks in the first place. Nick explores a growing workforce problem: if AI removes the bottom rung of the career ladder, where do future experts come from?
The real risk isn’t job loss. It’s talent loss. AI adoption, skills-based hiring, workforce development, quality of hire, recruiting, future of work. This conversation challenges some of the biggest assumptions about automation and hiring.
In this episode… Nick hares why skills-based hiring is accelerating, why AI may create a future talent shortage, and why companies should focus on ability over pedigree. Sharp discussion on hiring bias, quality of hire, AI adoption, workforce planning, and the unintended consequences of automation.
Key Takeaways :
• Nick argues AI should support hiring decisions, not make them entirely, because hiring still requires human judgment and nuance
• “Humans first” remains his preferred approach to hiring despite rapid advances in AI
• AI can improve bad processes, but it can also make bad processes fail faster if organizations do not redesign them first
• The panel believes bias will never disappear completely from hiring, whether decisions are made by humans, AI, or both
• Nick suggests hiring bias should move toward demonstrated ability and skill rather than pedigree, school names, or previous employers
• The conversation draws an important distinction between preference and hiring bias, arguing transparency matters when evaluating candidates
• Gartner surveyed more than 110 HR leaders and found growing concern that AI could eliminate many traditional entry-level roles
• According to the discussion, AI is expected to create more jobs than it replaces, but many of those jobs may require different skills than today’s entry-level work
• One major concern: if junior employees never enter the workforce, organizations may struggle to develop future senior talent
• William argues entry-level work will evolve rather than disappear, with future workers managing AI systems instead of performing repetitive tasks
• The panel predicts experience will become a weaker proxy for talent as skills-based hiring gains momentum
• Gartner data discussed on the show suggested roughly 40% of surveyed organizations had already eliminated roles they considered obsolete, many of them entry-level positions
• Nick believes skills assessments will become increasingly important as organizations look for proof of capability rather than relying on resumes and tenure alone
Guest : Nick Leslie
Co-Founder and CEO of Canditech, helping organizations hire based on demonstrated skills through job simulations and assessments that identify who can actually do the job before they get it.
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40 min - Candidate Feedback Report '26 | Amazon Launches AI Hiring Platform | UKG Cuts 950 Jobs | Rippling Hits $16.8B
The hiring stack is breaking in real time. Amazon, Greenhouse, UKG. Everybody’s rebuilding recruiting while candidates and AI bots flood the system.
Recruiting used to be messy. Now it’s machine vs machine. Recruiters are drowning in applications, candidates want everything on demand, and the old workflows are getting exposed hard.
412%...
That’s how much applications per recruiter have exploded since 2023. AI-generated resumes are flooding the funnel, companies are cutting headcount, and recruiting teams are trying to keep up with duct tape workflows. In this episode, we rip through layoffs, AI interviewing, candidate experience, recruiting tech, Amazon Connect Talent, Greenhouse, and why hiring is turning into AI versus AI.
In this episode…You’ll hear why UKG’s 950-person layoff isn’t really about AI, how Amazon might finally crack recruiting at scale, why Greenhouse bought voice-first interviewing tech, and why candidates now expect hiring to work like Netflix, Uber, and Amazon. Fast. Mobile. On demand.
Key Takeaways :
- UKG cut 950 jobs in its latest restructuring round
- The Kronos + Ultimate merger created a $3B company with 80,000+ customers
- Applications per recruiter jumped 412% since 2023
- AI-generated resumes are flooding recruiting funnels at insane scale
- Greenhouse acquired Ezra AI Labs for voice-first interviewing
- Amazon’s “Connect Talent” could turn Prime users into recruiting data gold
- Candidates increasingly expect interviews on their own schedule
- Recruiters are now using AI to fight AI-generated candidate spam
- IKEA once hid job ads inside furniture instruction manuals in Australia
- Companies are gaming job boards by labeling office jobs as “remote”
- GoDaddy makes canceling domains feel like an endurance sport
- Candidate experience is becoming the real competitive advantage
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40 min - The BARF | AI Isn’t Replacing Recruiters. It’s Exposing Bad Hiring.
Everyone wants AI in HR. Almost nobody knows what “good” looks like yet.
From opportunity cost to fake productivity, Ryan Leary and William Tincup unpack why AI adoption in recruiting is moving faster than leadership can measure it.A bad hire costs money. An empty seat costs more. That’s the part most companies still miss. We go straight at the real problem: AI, recruiting, HR tech, productivity, and leadership teams chasing efficiency without knowing what they’re actually optimizing for.In this episode…We break down the hidden cost of unfilled roles, why AI adoption metrics are mostly nonsense right now, and how recruiting teams are getting buried under tool fatigue.Key Takeaways :One company reportedly lost $4M a month in bookings because they couldn’t hire enough Java developers fast enoughMost leaders still measure recruiting by activity, not business impactAI adoption means nothing if quality dropsA team converting 50% of outreach into calls is still failing if only 3% are quality conversationsHR teams may need to rethink their AI stack every 90 days“Bring your own AI” is already happening whether companies allow it or notOpportunity cost in hiring is still massively underratedProductivity theater is becoming the new corporate diseaseSaaS updates used to happen yearly. AI changes weeklyLeadership wants AI speed. Practitioners still need accuracy and trustRecruiting teams are drowning in tools while still being asked to do more with lessBad actors exist. Technology doesn’t magically remove human behaviorConnect with Us :William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/WRKdefined :Site: http://www.wrkdefined.comTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefinedLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefinedFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/WRKdefinedSubstack: https://wrkdefined.substack.com/Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
37 min - Workplace Loneliness Is Killing Productivity. Job Security Is the New Ambition. AI Is Rewriting the Rules.
Employee engagement is wobbling. Loneliness is up. Job security now beats title chasing. And AI plus robotics are quietly reshaping talent management whether we like it or not. This one hits workplace reality from every angle - retention, discretionary effort, grooming habits, and the human side of work that rarely makes it into the board deck.
In this episode, Ryan and William unpack how loneliness is dragging down productivity, why employees are clinging to stability over ambition, and what that means for retention strategies in an AI-driven world. They challenge outdated talent practices like hoarding high performers and dig into how robotics in manufacturing is forcing leaders to rethink workforce design.
This episode is sponsored by FAMA. Fama helps employers make safer, smarter hiring decisions by using AI to screen public online content and identify risk and fit before day one.
Key Takeaways:
- Loneliness isn’t some soft HR buzzword. Cigna calls it a hidden cost, and they’re right. When people feel disconnected, they don’t quit. They just stop trying. Discretionary effort disappears. That’s not a feelings problem. That’s a performance problem.
- Monster’s 2026 report basically says what most of us already feel. People aren’t chasing shiny titles right now. They’re chasing stability. After years of layoffs and whiplash, job security is the new flex. You want retention? Make people feel safe.
- McDonald’s had that internal no-poach setup across franchises. You couldn’t just move stores even if it was better for you. That’s talent hoarding in a uniform. Managers do the same thing every day. If someone’s good, reward them and move them up. Don’t cage them.
- Boston Dynamics and Hyundai aren’t playing around. These humanoid robots are being trained with VR and motion capture, powered by Nvidia chips, to lift, move, and handle heavy manufacturing work. Humans don’t vanish. They shift. You train the machine. You manage the machine. You fix the machine. That’s the new layer of work.
- HR Dive nailed it. Companies say they’re hiring, but only if everything lines up perfectly. CFOs are squeezing. Hiring managers want unicorns. HR is stuck holding half-approved reqs. That’s not a talent shortage. That’s a confidence problem dressed up in better PR.
Chapters
00:00 Kicking ish off
03:02 Hair Care and Personal Grooming
06:02 Employment Practices and Talent Hoarding
08:58 Loneliness in the Workplace
12:04 Employee Engagement and Productivity
17:48 Job Security and Employee Retention
28:59 AI and Robotics in Manufacturing
36:00 Conclusion and Future Considerations
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41 min - Burnout, compliance pressure, and the communication breakdown reshaping modern work
Work feels louder, faster, and less predictable than it did even a few years ago. AI is accelerating change, job security feels fragile, and the way people communicate is shifting in real time. Leaders are expected to adapt instantly while still holding culture, trust, and performance together.
In this episode, the conversation moves from mindset and social dynamics to AI compliance, productivity tradeoffs, and the burnout hitting senior-level women hardest. The throughline is clear. Technology keeps moving forward, but leadership, policy, and mental health are being stress-tested every step of the way.
What We Cover
- Why positivity is less about vibes and more about discipline
- How social behavior and communication norms are changing
- AI compliance and why regulation always trails reality
- The illusion of job security in modern organizations
- Social media’s impact on communication skills
- Burnout and stalled advancement for senior women
Key Takeaways
- Job security is no longer something organizations can promise. Roles evolve constantly as automation, efficiency, and market pressure collide. Stability now comes from adaptability, not tenure.
- AI is increasing productivity while quietly eliminating jobs. Companies celebrate speed and output but struggle to talk honestly about the human cost. Compliance frameworks are trying to catch up.
- Communication skills are eroding as tools replace presence. Feedback, networking, and relationship-building require intentional effort or they disappear. Muscle memory matters.
- Senior-level women are carrying disproportionate pressure. Leadership expectations, political tension around DEI, and limited advancement paths are fueling burnout at the top.
Chapters
00:00 Manifesting Positivity in Daily Life
02:50 Navigating Social Interactions at the Bar
05:59 The Impact of AI Regulations on WorkTech
08:51 The Future of AI Compliance
11:45 Debating Social Media Restrictions for Youth
14:38 Adapting to New Communication Norms
17:04 Building Muscle Memory in Feedback and Networking
19:57 The Impact of AI on Job Security and Productivity
24:53 Women in the Workforce: Burnout and Career Advancement
31:50 The Political Landscape of DEI and Women’s Leadership
Hosts
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Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/
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40 min - The BARF: Emotional Labor, AI, and the Cracks in Work Nobody Wants to Own
Modern work is asking more from people than it ever has, and almost none of it is being acknowledged. Beyond skills and output, workers are expected to absorb stress, regulate emotions, manage uncertainty, and stay productive through constant change. This emotional labor has become a silent requirement, baked into jobs without recognition, protection, or compensation.
At the same time, organizations are introducing AI into some of the most sensitive parts of work: feedback, performance reviews, scheduling, and support. The promise is efficiency. The reality is exposure. These tools don’t fix broken systems. They surface where accountability is weak, where expectations are unclear, and where trust has already started to erode.
What looks like isolated issues - a strike over scheduling, frustration with performance reviews, employees turning to AI for reassurance - are actually connected signals. They point to a growing gap between what work demands emotionally and what companies are willing or able to own. AI is not creating that gap. It’s accelerating it.
In this episode, we share our analysis on emotional labor at work, why AI is quietly stepping into human gaps, and what recent labor actions like the Starbucks strike reveal about control, predictability, and trust. We unpack where organizations are underestimating the emotional cost of modern work and why governance, not technology, is becoming the real leadership challenge.Key TakeawaysEmotional labor is no longer the exception. It is the baseline. Work now expects people to manage stress, emotions, and ambiguity as part of the job, yet most organizations still treat this effort as invisible. That gap is one of the biggest drivers of burnout and disengagement, even in roles that appear stable on the surface.- AI is being used as emotional support because management systems are stretched thin. When employees turn to technology for clarity or reassurance, it usually signals that feedback loops are broken or leaders are overloaded. AI fills the space, but it also exposes who actually owns the human experience at work.
- Performance reviews become fragile the moment AI influences outcomes. Algorithms do not remove bias or responsibility. They shift it. Without clear ownership and governance, trust in performance systems collapses quickly and employees stop believing the process is fair.
- Scheduling is not an operational detail. It is power. The Starbucks strike made clear that unpredictability creates financial stress, emotional strain, and resentment, especially for hourly workers. Predictability is not a perk. It is dignity.
- Technology does not change culture. It reveals it. Healthy organizations use AI as leverage. Fragile ones feel it as pressure. Ignoring emotional labor and accountability only makes the fallout faster and louder.
Chapters
00:00 Emotional labor hiding in plain sight03:12 How job expectations quietly expanded06:18 AI as emotional backup10:42 Where accountability slips15:07 Performance reviews and trust19:58 Bias, credibility, and governance24:36 Scheduling as control27:02 Starbucks as an early warning33:11 What leaders are underestimating right nowConnect with us
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51 min - BARF: Bezos, BrightHire, and Why Surveillance Keeps Creeping Into Work
This episode digs into the strange collision of leadership, ambition, and surveillance tech shaping the workplace. Bezos jumps back into the trenches with a new AI startup, Ring slides deeper into facial recognition without real consent, and Zoom buys BrightHire to tighten its grip on the hiring process. All three signals point to the same tension: power, data, and the fading boundary between home and work.
We talk about leadership longevity, interview intelligence, privacy erosion, and how Big Tech continues to redefine the rules without asking. Bezos raises questions about retirement and ego, Ring raises questions about tracking and bias, and Zoom raises questions about who controls the hiring stack in a remote world.
Key takeaways
- Bezos returning to a new operating role changes the retirement conversation. It pushes leadership into a space where age becomes secondary to energy, curiosity, and impact. Companies are watching this closely because it reframes late-career value and challenges the idea that stepping back is the default for seasoned executives. It also shows how founders think about reinvention long after they’ve “won.”
- Ring’s “familiar faces” feature shows how fast consumer surveillance creeps into the workplace. Storing faceprints without consent and partnering with law enforcement opens the door to tracking people across entire neighborhoods. Bias issues for dark-skinned women and sign-language users are already documented. Once technology like this exists, companies inevitably find ways to apply it to hiring, security, attendance, or productivity.
- Wearables and cognitive-tracking tools raise a new question: when does optimization turn into control? These devices can help workers understand their energy patterns, but they also create a blueprint for employers to push performance expectations further. The line between support and surveillance gets thin fast. Workers want tools that help them improve, not tools that watch for dips in output.
- Zoom’s acquisition of BrightHire is a major shift in how interviews will run. BrightHire brings structure, coaching, and high-quality transcription into a platform recruiters already live on. If Zoom blends this with its existing footprint, hiring becomes faster and more consistent across teams. It also places Zoom in the conversation as a real player in the hiring workflow, not just a meeting tool.
- The future hiring stack is consolidating around communication platforms. When interviews, transcripts, guidance, and analysis live in the same place where teams already meet, the entire hiring motion changes. Recruiters get cleaner insights, candidates get a more consistent experience, and platforms get the power to shape the rules. Whoever controls that layer controls the hiring story.
Timestamps
00:00 Trash talk - Dallas Sucks but the Birds aren't great either05:10 Bezos and Project Prometheus10:20 Retirement myths, ageism, and work-forever mindsets13:45 Ring’s “familiar faces” and the surveillance creep20:30 Smart wearables, cognitive tracking, and workday optimization24:10 Money dynamics at home and how they show up at work28:20 Zoom acquires BrightHire34:55 Where this acquisition could leadConnect with us
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Analysis that you can understand without a Ph.D. Proudly brought to you by WRKdefined with hosts William Tincup and Ryan Leary.