Quentin Gardiner sits down with Shane Unruh, President and CEO of XS Asset Management, to talk about turning naive passion into real business success. From opening a gym with zero experience to navigating disastrous real estate deals in Edmonton, Shane shares the brutal truth about what it takes to build wealth.

They dive into mobile home parks, government subsidies that vanish overnight, and why one $5,000 conference completely rewired how Shane thinks about leverage. It's a raw conversation about learning expensive lessons and coming out stronger on the other side. 

Quentin Gardiner, CEO of the HGA Group, sits down with Jim Rakievich to talk about how a small blacksmith shop in Edmonton grew into a company with global reach. They share stories about leadership, growth, and the lessons that come from building something real. It's an honest conversation between two CEOs who've been through it and still keep showing up.