This is for a mature Christians audience.
This is the thing that I’m most uncertain about, and be humiliating wrong. This is not my foundation just a little idol for decoration, that maybe needs to be destroyed.
What the risk reward. Risk walking on thin ice and looking for the cracks of the bible push your luck fall throw to doctrines of demons.
What’s the reward, one I can have my pride patted on the head for uncovering this treasure, which is the ultimate joy in life is to be worshipped, or highly unlikely this could help someone who had the same nagging questions but either choose to live with the problem and me reminding them of it will make it worse, and this will force them to get frustrated and kick their dog, and be cold to someone who ask them for a favor becasue instead they are thinking of this problem or how to tell me in a clever kind way that I’m the problem, but by rebuking my monotone head, their hands are washed clean.
If we look at Old Testament prophecies they are not written like a cook book. Skeptics can argue Jesus didn’t fulfill the recipes on 1 to 1 conversion. John the Baptist was not the exact same being as Elijah. Either you accept that prophecies are written more mysterious than a cook book, or you have a lot recipes to reject.
Jesus told his followers on multiple occasions look I’m going to be killed, somehow it went over their heads, and they panicked when he got arrested, some people think we are given these stories to just like this is only a historical record, that’s it, their is no way God creator of the world, embedded multiple meanings. The Bible is just a straight forward historical account, so people would know how God acted with his people way back when, but it’s borderling blasphemy to suggest God being supremely intelligent left clues to for later generations to know, this is how I acted with past generations so look out, this is how I will act with people in your generations. I forgot some people think that the Bible primary function is to be a grammar book, and even though Jesus or the apostles spent little time correcting, mentioning grammar the primary function of the Bible and gods people is to be like a scribe Jesus was so found of and his people would be known by their endlessly talking about the grammar, not the spirit
“He has made us competent to be ministers of a new covenant, not of the letter, but of the Spirit. For the letter kills, but the Spirit produces life.” What is important grammatically about the letter of that verse, is what the Holy Spirit wanted Paul to write is notice where in the sentence clause the acting article pronoun Past participle is a modifier compared to this other Greek word that is used 413 times elsewhere but in opposite order, so this stands out the first time a word is used in before a pronoun subjunctive tense Herbert Greek Hebrew noun adverb adjective
It’s just silly to say the spirit is more important than the objective quantitative grammar, if you let the spirit drive the car you wind up at Kenneth Copelands Gulf Stream five.
He has made us competent to be ministers of a new covenant, not of the letter, but of the Spirit. For the letter kills, but the Spirit produces life.”
So what, their are just as many verses that say we should study the Bible, and work in words carefully and you are just throwing up red straw man hearings, no one said the Bible is a cook book, just a history book, or a grammar book
I was going to say something like sure it’s not said but the implication or my interpretation but who cares I’m not an educated person. I’m easily confused and pay child support, and it only gets worse from here on in.
In this ever goes to court, I’m never said don’t study the Bible. You should study the Bible backards and forwards, when you hear someone speak, you don’t have to just be a berean and later go study to see, but you should simultaneously by checking what the words being given to you, with the scriptures you know. And if you can not multitask like me, also go be a bereaan and double check to if you remembered the the scriptures right, I only wanted emphasize you don’t study primarily for the grammar but for the spirit. Did you get the gist of what the lesson was, what you should do, or should not.
If you argue, well we have to know the letter correctly to know the spirit, than I argue you’ll never know the spirit if you stay stuck in the old covenant of the grammar police.
How literate do you have to be to understand don’t commit adultry, you are a sinner jesus paid for your sins with his death repent, do you have to know Ancient Greek grammar to comprehend that?
“This is how you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit who confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God. But every spirit who does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist; you have heard that he is coming, and he is already in the world now.”
The Bible is god’s grimoire
bible is not an easily understandable book to the natural man, in fact it says its not understandable to the natural man,
John 3:16 gives the spell to turn a person from death row, to born again. Not to mention spiritual gifts, and fortelling the future, the bIble is not an ordinary book
Im not an educated person so when I read Isaiah 14 or Ezekiel 28 and try to figure out is this talking solely about an earthly ruler, or is there a double purpose. Is God through his prophets also condemning a fallen angel along with the earthly ruler, i don’t’ know but I don’t think you will gain this insight through placement of jots ant tittles alone. For all I know it’s non of our business, It wouldn’t change how I ought to live, on whether or not God codedly condemned the devil in the old testament prophetic books.. We know other scriptures, God flat out dooms the devil, so it wouldn’t change anything if he added some more bombs.
Not every prophecy the authors of the New Testament pinned on Jesus first coming, convinced the people of their day, or the skeptics today. Some prophecies the critics say weren’t even flagged this is a prophecy about the messiah. skeptics will go the apostles were looking for anything in the Old Testament, that could pin on the life of Jesus, and declare prophecy fulfilled. The Old Testament gave 10 commanments, 600 some other rules, genealogies who begat who, exact measurements of the temple, but it didn’t list out here’s all the prophecies about the messiah in one place. People complain when the Bible list things, they call it the dull parts, and when a prophecy is given, they say we can’t know for sure, it’s unclear dubious at best.
For the word of God is living and effective and sharper than any double-edged sword, penetrating as far as the separation of soul and spirit, joints and marrow. It is able to judge the ideas and thoughts of the heart. No creature is hidden from Him, but all things are naked and exposed to the eyes of Him to whom we must give an account.”
Does that mean when you die you sit in front of a 40 foot Bible, and it judges you or is the Word of God Jesus? If you think the Bible is living and sees all, you already acknowledged it’s not an ordinary book.
Either way the word of God is unique and unparalleled it’s not us who through our grammar detective work separates the word of God from pronoun and adverb but it judges us.
“The Father who sent Me has Himself testified about Me. You have not heard His voice at any time, and you haven’t seen His form. You don’t have His word living in you, because you don’t believe the One He sent. You pore over the Scriptures because you think you have eternal life in them, yet they testify about Me. And you are not willing to come to Me so that you may have life.”
But academic will say
“and you know that from childhood you have known the sacred Scriptures, which are able to give you wisdom for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is inspired by God and is profitable for teaching, for rebuking, for correcting, for training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.”
Knowing the scriptures is profitable, how can you argue for ignorance?
Guilty I’m ignorant and dont talk good. Any chance you esteem your grammar police creditinals too highly. The scriptures give you wisdom for salvation, not salvation itself, it’s profitable we should study it but Bart Earman studies the scriptures for grammar more than I and he admits he doesn’t have salvation. No one is denying you should study this book, but it won’t get you all the way to being right with God. It’s not the hearer of the words, but the doer of the words.
The Bible is the best book, maybe the only thing you’d ever have to study, it will exist long past any of my comments about it. Or yours. It has stood the test of time, past rulers who followed other books, who exiled and enslaved the Bible believing people. I do not mean to denegrate the Bible by poking holes at ones limits of comprehension of it, I merely desired to exhault the Bible that it is beyond our cheering. It’s better than just a history book, cook book, grammar book, it’s a in a class of it’s own. In any category it would win. It best explains the world, and correctly for tell the future.
The Old Testament prophecies about Jesus, are enmeshed encoded in text
if you’re just skimming through you’d overlook them, if someone didn’t point to it and go that’s a prophecy about the messiah, you might never have come to that conclusion on your own. Example Hosea 11:1 “When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt.”
At first glance, that just sounds like God talking about Israel in the past, being exiled out of Egypt. Does that passage without a doubt scream it’s talking about the messiah, is the word messiah even used, does it say I’m talking both about the past, and giving you a clue about the future. No it doesn’t. If you treat the bIble look a cook book recipe that if you just study it context every part of snaps it into place, and you can wrinkle out every mystery is a lie.
you have to study the bible with humility that as a flawed human, who your best works is of filthy wrags, Jesus particularly warned against scribes and teachers of the scriptures of his day, who love the prestige of teaching, be careful. And i think there are parts of this mystery that an angel stands in front of like of eden, and maybe we can see the outline or like looking through a fence, but we are not allowed in yet. I think the people who brag about their fine theological strainers, that they pour the Bible through, and strain out anything that doesn’t fit their system I think would have gone, no way John the Baptist is Elijah come back, no way Jesus could heal on the sabbath. I think they idolize their theogolical strainers, more than the creator.