THE Bitcoin Podcast

Who is left to sell Bitcoin?

James Check (Checkmate) and Michael Sullivan are back for round two after Peak Apathy. We put Check’s on-chain analysis alongside Michael’s language-based sentiment research to explore the gap between Bitcoin’s recovering price and the crowd’s lingering disbelief.

Check explains his seller-exhaustion thesis and why a calendar is no substitute for studying how holders behave. Michael breaks down excitement, desire, fear and anger—and why hoping for a higher price is not the same as buying Bitcoin.

We also discuss coin age and spending behavior, DCA versus emotional buying, how to measure Bitcoin’s returns, and why quieter Bitcoiners may simply be busy building businesses and raising families. Then we zoom out to adoption “one funeral at a time,” shifting narratives, AI, scarcity, and the history embedded in Bitcoin’s UTXO set.

Both guests remain bullish, but their thesis is not a guarantee: Check allows for another selloff, and Michael explicitly separates his long-term conviction from the next two weeks.

Recorded October 19, 2026.

JAMES CHECK / CHECKMATE

MICHAEL SULLIVAN

ROUND ONE — PEAK APATHY

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Could AI change how society makes decisions—and why is Erin Redwing watching 2032? Erin joins Walker for a conversation about Bitcoin, artificial intelligence, astrology, historical cycles and keeping your human agency in a world that is changing fast.

We discuss the AI you notice versus the AI you don't, why long-form conversations matter when a clip can turn you into someone else, and how we both use AI in our creative work. Erin explains her interpretation of planetary and civilizational cycles, including her speculative 2032 thesis, before we get into internet mind viruses, humor, the next generation and why Bitcoin gave her hope.

Erin's ideas about astrology and 2032 are her interpretations and open questions, not established predictions or investment advice.

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How much Bitcoin is enough—and what is it actually for? Jessy Gilger, CFP® and founder of Verify Wealth, joins Walker to connect Bitcoin conviction with the practical work of taxes, inheritance, cash flow, and making time for the people you love.

We discuss why your legal documents, financial plan, and Bitcoin keys need to agree; how unclear inheritance instructions can burden a grieving family; and how tax planning fits into a life built around Bitcoin. Jessy also explains the idea behind Bitcoin Scholars Fund and why “stay humble, stack Saturdays” matters just as much as stacking sats.

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Chapters

00:00 Intro: death, taxes, 21 million

01:11 Jessy Gilger: Cybertruck, self-driving & privacy

10:49 Why Jessy built Verify Wealth

12:22 Sponsor: Ledn

13:36 Sponsor: Blockstream Jade Plus

14:47 Why Bitcoiners need a financial plan

16:57 The problem with percentage-based advisory fees

21:24 Bitcoin taxes, cost basis & planning ahead

25:07 Roth accounts, gifting & tax buckets

28:10 Expats, residency & capital gains

30:14 Tax-loss harvesting & wash-sale discussion

33:15 Bitcoin Scholars Fund & school-choice credits

37:38 Connect your keys to your inheritance plan

42:09 Probate, trusts & family privacy

47:52 Give your spouse confidence, not a puzzle

50:22 Plan B: jurisdiction, custody & optionality

55:20 Death, taxes, 21 million & the money printer

01:00:42 Cash flow, retirement & spending with purpose

01:07:05 Market cycles, goals & when to sell

01:14:08 “I have enough Bitcoin”

01:17:54 Stay humble, stack Saturdays

01:18:59 Verify Wealth & Bitcoin Scholars Fund

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Editorial Correction

At approximately 1:04:29, the conversation mentions airline pilots retiring at 62. The FAA limit for pilots serving in Part 121 airline operations is 65: https://www.faa.gov/faq/what-maximum-age-pilot-can-fly-airplane

In this episode of The Bitcoin Podcast, I sit down with Cory Klippsten, CEO of Swan Bitcoin, to talk about where Bitcoin stands today. Cory explains why he thinks most Bitcoin treasury companies fell short of what they promised, and why he now recommends keeping at least 90% of your Bitcoin exposure in the real thing rather than stocks, ETFs, or other proxies. He also pushes back on the idea that AI agents will drive Bitcoin payments, arguing they'll mostly pay in digital dollars, and that the stronger use case is censored humans who need money that can't be stopped.

He also explains why his advice has hardened to keeping 90% or more of your exposure in real Bitcoin.

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Welcome to Kayfabe University. Class is in session.

Rod Palmer and Richard Greaser of The Bitcoin Bugle return for a conversation about the performance, propaganda, satire, and manufactured reality shaping life online.

We discuss fake audiences, bot-driven influence, political theater, Gen Z’s ability to monetize everything, and what happens when kayfabe produces real-world consequences. We also explore how to find signal in the noise, why authenticity is becoming a superpower, and the simple white pill of turning off your phone and living your life.

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Ben Justman is the founder of Peony Lane Wine, a Colorado winemaker, farmer, Bitcoiner, and one of the most entertaining voices in the Bitcoin space.

In this episode, Walker sits down with Ben to discuss the very real story of bears destroying his vineyard’s grape crop, the harsh economics and uncertainty of small-scale farming, and why building a business around real products changes your perspective on money, risk, and time preference.

Ben explains why independent farmers face far more than weather risk—from frost and wildlife to thin margins and broken incentives—and why supporting local producers matters. The conversation also explores Bitcoin adoption, dollar-cost averaging, monetary debasement, Bitcoin versus stocks, and why Bitcoin can improve a person’s life long before it delivers the financial outcome they originally expected.

This is a conversation about resilience, sovereignty, entrepreneurship, agriculture, Bitcoin conviction, and continuing to build through difficult cycles.

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The Coldcard vulnerability became the catalyst for one of the largest AI-powered security efforts in Bitcoin's history.

Walker America sits down with Rob Hamilton (AnchorWatch) to unpack Bitcoin's volunteer "Red Team," the future of Bitcoin security and self-custody, AI-powered vulnerability research, open-source software security, Kimi K3 vs. OpenAI, responsible disclosure, collaborative custody, and why the emerging AI arms race could fundamentally reshape cybersecurity far beyond Bitcoin.

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Alex Thorn joins THE Bitcoin Podcast to discuss whether the Bitcoin bottom is in, the next Bitcoin bull market, changing market cycles, institutional adoption, Bitcoin price analysis, the Coldcard exploit, self-custody, multisig, AI-powered cybersecurity, hardware wallets, and why Bitcoin may be entering a fundamentally new era.

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Samson Mow joins Walker to break down the escalating controversy surrounding BIP 110, Bitcoin Core, OP_RETURN, spam filtering, and the difference between node relay policy and Bitcoin’s consensus rules. Samson explains why he believes BIP 110 attempts to force a rushed and contentious soft fork onto the network, lowers the threshold for future consensus changes, and could produce a short-lived minority chain with insufficient hash rate to survive.

Samson also compares the emotional arguments behind BIP 110 with those used during the Blocksize War, arguing that a desirable objective does not justify a dangerous technical solution. He discusses Bitcoin’s economic majority, miner signaling, the limits of node counts, the risks facing Lightning users and other network participants during a chain split, and why Bitcoin consensus must emerge slowly rather than being imposed through arbitrary deadlines.

Beyond BIP 110, Samson shares his bullish outlook for Bitcoin, explains why belief in the four-year cycle may have created a self-fulfilling selloff, and argues that exhausted sellers could set the stage for God candles and Omega candles. He also discusses the inevitability of large-scale fiat money printing, the upcoming rebuild of Aqua Wallet, and JAN3’s new nation-state Bitcoin adoption report and B20 country rankings.

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Lyn Alden joins Walker to discuss where Bitcoin may be in the current market cycle, why today’s “peak apathy” could represent an accumulation zone, and how the massive flow of capital into AI has affected Bitcoin and crypto markets.

Lyn also breaks down Orange Juice, her new permanent-capital company designed to acquire durable, cash-flowing businesses and retain part of their earnings in Bitcoin. They explore why this model differs from pure-play Bitcoin treasury companies and traditional private equity, the coming generational transfer of small businesses, and how AI can make established companies more efficient without simply replacing workers.

The conversation also covers the Federal Reserve under Kevin Warsh, inflation and interest rates, AI as a long-term deflationary force, China’s open-source AI strategy, the geopolitical AI arms race, and why decentralized and open-source AI could ultimately empower individuals.

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