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Luke 24:13-35 (The Road to Emmaus)
Every leader faces moments when hope feels lost and dreams seem crushed. In this powerful episode, we explore the biblical story of two disciples on the road to Emmaus who had lost all hope after Jesus's crucifixion. Their journey from "we had hoped" to renewed faith provides a practical blueprint for leaders navigating their darkest seasons. Ken shares three essential strategies for overcoming hopeless situations in leadership: honest communication with God, persistent forward movement despite discouragement, and maintaining openness to unexpected breakthroughs.
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Summary
Leadership inevitably brings seasons of crushing disappointment and lost hope. In this deeply personal episode, Ken examines the story of two disciples walking to Emmaus after Jesus's crucifixion, who uttered the heartbreaking words "but we had hoped." These men represent every leader who has watched their vision crumble and felt the weight of failed expectations.
Ken draws from his extensive experience working with hundreds of entrepreneurs to reveal that belief is the single biggest factor determining success in any venture - not resources, talent, or even good ideas. Yet even the most successful leaders face seasons where hope feels impossible to maintain.
The episode unpacks three crucial strategies for overcoming hopeless situations in leadership. First, we must be honest with God about our discouragement rather than offering polished prayers. Ken's pastor's advice to "pray what you got" reminds us that authentic communication includes our exhaustion, frustration, and anger.
Second, we must continue moving forward even when we're emotionally drained. The disciples literally kept walking despite their despair, and leaders must maintain forward momentum until God clearly closes one door and opens another. This persistence through pain distinguishes successful leaders from those who give up.
Third, we must stay open to possibilities and miracles. The disciples remained receptive to Jesus's teaching and presence, even in their discouragement. Many people close themselves off to breakthrough because they predetermine negative outcomes, but successful leaders understand that God's truth supersedes circumstances.
Ken emphasizes the critical difference between facts and truth, using David and Goliath as an example. David walked confidently toward seemingly impossible odds because he understood God's promise superseded the apparent facts. This same principle applies to modern leadership challenges.
The episode concludes with a reminder that even in our lowest moments, we must maintain openness to unexpected solutions. Jesus met the disciples where they were, not shaming their doubt but actively working to restore their hope. Similarly, God doesn't abandon leaders in their darkest seasons but provides pathways to breakthrough for those who remain open to His intervention.
Top 3 Growth Actions
• Be Honest About Your Discouragement - Don't offer polished prayers when you're struggling. Ken's pastor says "pray what you got" - be authentic with God about your exhaustion, frustration, and lost hope. This honesty creates space for genuine breakthrough rather than pretending everything is fine. [11:07]
• Keep Moving Forward Despite Pain - The disciples literally continued walking to Emmaus even while discouraged. As a leader, you must maintain forward momentum until God clearly closes one door and opens another. Don't stop just because you're discouraged - that's the hardest but most essential part of leadership. [14:07]
• Stay Open to Miracles and Breakthrough - The disciples remained receptive to Jesus's presence and teaching despite their despair. Many people close themselves off to possibilities by predetermining negative outcomes, but successful leaders understand that God's truth supersedes apparent circumstances. [21:43]
Show Highlights
[00:00] "But we had hoped."
[00:18] Ken introduces the central theme: "we're centering around this one verse, which I think is a verse that we can all relate to, if you have any desires in life, if you have any ambitions and you're chasing something great."
[02:03] "But we had hoped that it was he was going to redeem Israel indeed. Besides all this, today is the third day since these things happened."
[03:09] Ken shares personal experience: "maybe I'm even guaranteed it in some way, because I believe it's for me. Maybe there have been times where I've been literally shown something in a miraculous way from God, like this is the thing you're supposed to be doing, and it's going to be good."
[03:42] "we had hoped. It's not we we hope, or we still hope, we have hope. It's we had hoped. And so they're discouraged."
[08:19] "it's clearly okay to lose hope, right? It happens"
[08:33] Ken reveals a key insight: "belief is maybe the number one thing that determines success in any situation. And I've worked with hundreds and hundreds of entrepreneurs across all sorts of things"
[09:07] "it's actually their belief. It's the decision that they're going to actually go and do this thing"
[11:01] "Number one, they're honest with God."
[11:07] Ken's pastor's advice: "My pastor says, Pray what you got"
[11:39] "honestly to God and just tell him how you're feeling, like I had hoped, and now I'm disappointed and I'm upset about it, and I don't even know what to do."
[12:16] "Second thing is, what's interesting is they keep going literally, like they're actually walking to a place, they literally continue down the path."
[13:30] "One of the things is you just keep going unless the door closes. Like one of the prayers that I pray in that situation is like, Okay, I'm just gonna keep obeying and keep walking down this path until you tell me a different path to walk down."
[14:07] "Like, that's the number one thing about leadership, is you don't stop just because you're discouraged. That is one of the hardest things about leadership."
[15:00] Ken quotes Elon Musk: "business ownership, is like staring into the abyss while eating glass."
[16:28] "When David fought Goliath, he was staring down the face of, you know, one in a million odds, or whatever it is, but his belief and his mission allowed him to do that with confidence and win."
[17:36] "what's interesting is ...