The Bottom Turtle Podcast

In this episode, Oyani and Dr. Ray discuss the concept of eternal spirits using Jungian archetypes and the concept of pointing as introduced in the previous episode "Pointing in the Continuum".  In their discussion, they define eternal spirits in terms of valid configurations of the universe as determined by the laws of physics.  As the universe evolves from one state to another, certain quantities must be conserved like momentum and energy.  These conserved quantities are the symmetries of the universe, and they determine which configurations are physically possible.  For instance, the human configuration is clearly valid as well as the archetypes of chef, comedian, scientist, doctor, etc.  As valid configurations of the universe, these archetypal spirits are eternal since their existence is always a potential state of the universe that are consistent with the laws of physics.  The hosts further discuss how stories about these archetypes increase the probability that they will be embodied and observed in the future due to people's interactions with the stories.  They also discuss the concept of self as it relates to archetypes and what it means to see the self in others. 

So join us if you want to hear about Jungian archetypes from the perspective of stories, physics, and information, and as always stay turtlin' my friends! 

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In this episode, Oyani and Dr. Ray present an argument defending their use of the word spirit using the character Colin Robinson from "What We Do in the Shadows". 

In the episode "Spirits & Waveforms", the hosts define spirit in terms of how something programs the universe and how it is programmed by the universe.  This associates the concept of spirit with how the universe evolves during an interaction.  Given this definition, the hosts argue that they are removing the supernatural aspects from the word while keeping most of its historic connotation to communicate precisely.  This is related to Colin Robinson since he is an energy vampire, not a traditional vampire who sucks blood.  Despite this, he is still understood to be a vampire by the audience.  Further, by making him a vampire that feeds on negative emotion, he represents a person, like an internet troll, who spreads misery for their own sustenance.  Since this archetypal spirit exists in real life, the show demonstrates how the concept of vampire can manifests itself in reality by keeping some traits of the vampire while removing others.  It is in this sense that the hosts justify their use of the word spirit while removing the supernatural.   

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In this episode of The Bottom Turtle Podcast, visual designer Oyani Onimiya and quantum physicist Shannon Ray expand their discussion on spirits by reviewing the movie "Spring Breakers" starring Selena Gomez and James Franco.

Spring Breakers is the 8th movie by filmmaker Harmony Korine that follows the descent into chaos of four college students looking for excitement during spring break.  While partying in Florida, they meet up with Alien, played by Franco,  who shows them the true meaning of embracing the spring breaker spirit.

Using the perspective of information, Dr. Ray and Oyani give their interpretation of the movie as a cautionary tale of what happens when one worships the spirit of chaos.  They also discuss the trappings of projecting a false persona, and the effects of lying to one's self about the true nature of their spirit. 

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Stay turtlin' my friends, peace. 

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In this episode, visual designer Oyani Onimiya and quantum physicist Shannon Ray use their information theoretic based language to give physical meaning to the concept of spirit.  To do this, they define something's spirit as the way it programs the universe and the way it is programmed by the universe.  For anything to program or be programmed, there must be an interaction.  Thus, this definition connects spirit to how the universe evolves during an interaction.  From here, spirit is further connected to the scientific method since to know a spirit is a question of the  likely outcome of an interaction which can be verified through observation.

They also discuss the social implications of this definition since something's spirit is defined in terms of its interactions with all other things in the universe.  As such, they point out that one's spirit does not belong to them alone since it requires multiple parties to interact with.
This implies that the meaning of any archetypal spirit, like comedian, chef, doctor, scientist etc. exists on the network of all minds who are interacting.  Everyone gets a vote on what these spirits are since someone's model of a spirit affects how they interact with it which affects the spirit. 

This episode  also tackles the question of self by pointing out that one's physical matter is replaced over time, and yet there remains something that is the self that can't be made of physical matter alone.  This conundrum is explored by arguing that what remains that is not made of matter is the waveform which dictates how information flows during interactions.  This further complicates the question of self since waveforms are independent of the physical matter on which they've been placed. Therefore, it is possible to identify with a waveform that can be found in others.

So if you're interested in science based arguments of spirits and the idea of self, check out the episode!  And if you have any questions and  ideas you want discussed on the show, or you want to tell us why we're wrong, leave us an email at [email protected]

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We are Back!!!
Dr Ray and Oyani kick off the new season by introducing The Configuration Stability Principle and discuss the purpose of consciousness.

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Dr. Ray and Oyani hangout with English teacher Eunice Ray to summarize the season and discuss what it means to establish truth.

Episodes of this podcast are not meant to be listened to individually, but are instead pieces of the larger whole.  As such, the purpose of this episode is to summarize the arguments developed throughout season 1 on the role of information when discussing reality.  The hosts review the degree of freedom soup as a thought experiment for breaking the illusion that what one sees is reality.  They also discuss how the concept of information functions as a bridge between the physical and metaphysical spaces.  This is continued by a discussion of navigating the metaphysical space in terms of feelings, games, and optimization.  Finally, the conversation concludes with a discussion on what it means to create truth. 

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Stay turtlin' my friends 

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Dr Ray and Oyani discuss information being the bottom turtle using symmetries and metaphors

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Dr Ray and Oyani discuss his interaction with the folks from r/Philosophyofscience

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Oyani and Dr Ray, break down the phrase "speak your truth"

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Dr Ray and Oyani discuss Conspiracy Theories and False trophies

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