Super producer Cimcie joins John & Heyang to talk about her favorite holiday-Halloween. As it turns out, it's John's as well, as he shares stories from "back in the day" when his dad transformed from a respected banker into-Dracula-for over 20 years. As it turns out, Halloween is also celebrated in China, but in a very different way. But, before all that, with Covid looming over trick or treating, John, Heyang and Cimcie have a serious discussion about the differences between the response to the pandemic in America and China.