In this candid and compelling episode of The Business Men, ex- Made

In Chelsea star turned endurance athlete Spencer 

Matthews joins the show for his most open conversation yet. Known

for his drive, ambition, and high-profile entrepreneurial journey, 

Spencer pulls back the curtain on the real story behind his business

ventures—from the exhilarating highs to the setbacks that tested

his resilience.

He talks openly about mistakes, pivots, lessons learned, and the

pressure that comes with building brands in the public eye. Honest, 

reflective, and surprisingly raw, this episode offers a rare look

at the reality of entrepreneurship—and the unshakable mindset

required to keep moving forward.

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Brave?! Or just plain stupid?! After weeks of teasing, debating, bargaining, and stalling… the day has finally arrived.

It’s the moment you lot have been waiting for. One of our beloved hosts, Joel Dommett, or Ben Shephard, is officially getting PIERCED. 

The tension is real. The stakes are absurd. The commitment? Questionable at best. In this highly anticipated episode, The Business Men deliver a perfect cocktail of chaos and anticipation as it ACTUALLY happens.... with YOU as our witness! Will the newly adorned host regret everything? There’s only one way to find out. Grab your headphones... today, history (and a nipple) is made.

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Thank you to Pierce Me London Holborn for being such great sports with this journey. You can find them here: https://piercemelondon.co.uk/

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This week on The Business Men, Joel Dommett and Ben Shephard

sit down with globally recognised skincare expert and bestselling author 

Caroline Hirons. She is iconically a straight‑talking industry powerhouse 

known for her no‑nonsense approach, loyal community, and 

game‑changing beauty advice.

In this refreshingly honest conversation, Caroline opens up about 

growing her business, why it felt so right, and how she did NOT 

enjoy pitching for investment!

Expect candid stories, sharp insights, laughs, and a fascinating look into 

what it really takes to run a brand when millions are watching

 your every move. If you’re interested in business, beauty, 

personal branding, or simply love hearing from people who 

tell it like it is, this episode is unmissable.

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Sara Davies from 'Dragons' Den,' shares her incredible experiences in business, from her humble beginnings in crafting to building a multi-million-pound empire. Sara offers invaluable advice on the crucial aspects of starting and maintaining a successful business, and the significance of listening to customers. 

She also talks about her stint as the quiz show host for Time is Money and how stepping out of her comfort zone has helped her grow personally and professionally. 

Plus Ben Vs Joel continues as the guys take on their next challenge to get as many people to fill out their skincare survey as possible. And we find out WHO's more famous....Catherine Tate or Jamie Oliver?!

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Joel Dommett and Ben Shephard reveal how they came up with their skincare brand name - Joel and Ben For Skin. The rationale behind it, and their plans for the brand's logo and visual identity. And Sam Dumont, Executive Creative Director at Blue Marlin, shares her wealth of knowledge about design, branding and how to properly brief a designer. 

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👉 Sam Dumont’s Creative Brief Template (FREE on Patreon): https://bit.ly/4bhGBWE 

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The listeners have spoken! Joel and Ben finally unveil the official name of their brand‑new skincare brand.... FINALLY! This episode marks the true beginning of the brand’s journey: no products, no packaging… just a name, a dream, and two very excitable hosts.

To help them understand what happens next, the boys sit down with former Chief Marketing Officer of Boots, Pete Markey, for a masterclass in early‑stage branding and marketing. From shaping a brand’s identity to figuring out how to stand out on a crowded shelf, Pete gives the boys a crash course in what they should (and shouldn’t) do now that the name is locked in.

Expect laughs, lessons, listener power, and the first proper step into building a skincare brand from scratch. It all starts here.

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Ben Shephard and Joel Dommett reveal the final three names for their upcoming skincare brand. This episode delves into the rigorous workshop that led to the shortlist and discusses the unique significance of each name. The guys also talk about their ongoing survey challenge, and the weekly challenges they'll be set. PLUS an incentive for one of them to get pierced if they meet a target of 5000 survey submission by February 14th. 

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Joel and Ben are back in 2026 with a bang! They dive into the hottest business trends set to shape the year—from AI-driven innovation to sustainability strategies—while reflecting on their biggest wins and lessons from 2025. Expect sharp insights, candid conversations, and a roadmap for staying ahead in the ever-changing business world.

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Celebrate the season with Joel and Ben in this heartwarming festive special! The holiday cheer comes in the form of a CLASSIC 'Secret Santa' gift exchange, and things get emotional when they listen to touching messages from little ones sharing what they love most about the father figures in their lives. It’s an episode packed with joy, sentiment, and the magic of Christmas—perfect for cozying up and feeling all the feels.

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In this episode of The Business Men, Ben and Joel are reunited as Joel returns from Australia with big news! It isn't all happy returns for Joel as Ben updates him with some of the challenges the business has been facing whilst he's been away. They hear some bad news from their business partner Russell and some advice from previous guest Deborah Meaden.

The Boys also set each other a challenge to help drive more interest to their skincare survey and the loser will be getting pierced.

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