In this episode of The Bytagig Podcast, host John Jackson sits down with Shawn Busse, founder of Kinesis, author of Marketing from the Inside Out, and long-time advocate for owner-operated businesses. Shawn shares his journey from college professor to growth studio leader, and unpacks how marketing has radically shifted in the past two decades—from the SEO gold rush to the AI-driven “zero-click” world we’re in today.
They dive deep into:
- Why traditional digital marketing playbooks no longer work
- The rise of AI and how it’s reshaping content, SEO, and trust
- Why in-person events and authentic storytelling are more powerful than ever
- Lessons from the Catalyst Summit and building communities of business owners
- The “algorithm of enragement” and what it means for entrepreneurs trying to reach real audiences
Whether you’re an owner-operator, marketer, or simply navigating the evolving digital landscape, this conversation offers practical insights, cautionary tales, and a glimpse into the future of growth.