What does Christian leadership look like? What does it mean for leaders to be known as workers for joy? Is it a mistake to view the qualifications as prerequisites for church leadership?

Join Ronjour and Brandon this week as they sit down with Dr. David Mathis (Pastor at Cities Church in Saint Paul, Minnesota) to discuss his new book, Workers for Your Joy: The Call of Christ on Christian Leaders.

Consider adding Dr. Mathis' new book to your library by visiting https://www.crossway.org/books/workers-for-your-joy-tpb/.

Learn more about the Center for Preaching and Pastoral Leadership by visiting pastorscenter.org.