The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast

Fact: Many churches with facilities and money lack people, while churches with people often lack facilities and funds. In this episode, Carey Nieuwhof argues why dying churches should transfer their buildings to growing congregations.

He addresses the 5 key objections to this transition and demonstrates why overcoming these barriers creates a win for everyone involved in advancing the Kingdom's mission.

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Imagine if your biggest question was, why did our church grow so fast? Jason Mitchell, Lead Pastor of LCBC, talks about what you need to do to see a 280% greater spike in first-time visitors returning to your church, what's changing in preaching, and the emotion of succession.

🔗 Show Notes

📩 On The Rise Newsletter

🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet

🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy

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❗️Connect with other podcast listeners about each episode of my podcast, including me. You'll get exclusive insights by asking questions, sharing insights, and learning how others are applying the content in real life.

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SUBSPLASH

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The Unstuck Group's Amy Anderson discusses how to know if your church is overstaffed (it probably is), the key differences between growing and declining churches, and leading a company after its founder dies.

🔗 Show Notes

📩 On The Rise Newsletter

🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet

🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy

🎥 Watch on YouTube

Follow @careynieuwhof

Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork

❗️Connect with other podcast listeners about each episode of my podcast, including me. You'll get exclusive insights by asking questions, sharing insights, and learning how others are applying the content in real life.

Join for free: https://careynieuwhof.com/shownotes

GLOO MESSAGING

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Has your calling become toxic? Biola Professor Arianna Molloy discusses the identity crisis most church leaders face: identifying with their calling so much that it becomes toxic.

She also discusses burnout, how to get healthy, and the problems with boundary-shaming your team.

🔗 Show Notes

📩 On The Rise Newsletter

🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet

🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy

🎥 Watch on YouTube

Follow @careynieuwhof

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❗️Connect with other podcast listeners about each episode of my podcast, including me. You'll get exclusive insights by asking questions, sharing insights, and learning how others are applying the content in real life.

Join for free: https://careynieuwhof.com/shownotes

UPWARD SPORTS

Upward Sports equips churches to share the gospel and make connections in their community.

Learn how sports can impact your church and community at https://www.upward.org/carey/

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Kyle Idleman discusses why it's easier to admit a fault on stage than to a friend in person, the times you feel like you want to punch a hole in the wall (and what to do about it), vulnerability, insecurity, and the spiritual gift of disappointing people.

🔗 Show Notes

📩 On The Rise Newsletter

🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet

🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy

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GLOO FEED

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Chris Hodges, founding pastor of Church of the Highlands, opens up for the first time about being bullied as a kid, having an inferiority complex, and how that's impacted his leadership.

Plus, he shares how to multiply leaders to craft a successful succession.

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STATE OF THE CHURCH

From mental health, to Gen Z, to new apologetics, learn more about the research coming out of The State of the Church.

COMPASSION

As a pastor, I desire all people to accept God's compassion towards us and to live a full life of gospel-driven impact as a result. If you also desire this, I encourage you to visit my friends at Compassion International and begin learning how YOU can grow YOUR compassion today. Find out more at www.compassion.com/carey.

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Carey answers your questions about whether there are limits to church growth, what to do if your elders try to micromanage you, and how to know who to fire and how to do it.

🔗 Show Notes

📩 On The Rise Newsletter

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🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy

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UPWARD SPORTS

By offering an intentional outreach ministry like Upward Sports you can engage families around your church and build relationships. Visit http://Upward.org/Carey

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Patria Lead Pastor Adam Mesa shares how viral podcasting helped grow his church from 1,100 to 7,500+ in five years, his experience as a millennial taking over leadership from his dad, and navigating the strengths and challenges of ADHD.

🔗 Show Notes

📩 On The Rise Newsletter

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🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy

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BELAY

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Ryan Leak has become one of the most sought-after preachers and leadership speakers today. He explains why he prepares for a three-minute offering talk the same way he preps for a leadership talk to a Fortune 100 company. He also explains what to do to connect with and leave a positive impression with your leadership heroes.

🔗 Show Notes

📩 On The Rise Newsletter

🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet

🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy

🎥 Watch on YouTube

Follow @careynieuwhof

Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork

STATE OF THE CHURCH

The Church Health dashboard takes the guesswork out of important ministry decisions. In minutes, you hear directly from your people on how they are doing and the insights you get are incredibly helpful. Visit https://stateofthechurch.com/carey

COMPASSION

As a pastor, I desire all people to accept God's compassion towards us and to live a full life of gospel-driven impact as a result. If you also desire this, I encourage you to visit my friends at Compassion International and begin learning how YOU can grow YOUR compassion today. Find out more at www.compassion.com/carey.

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Organizational consultant Andrew Mellen returns to the podcast to discuss the three rules he uses to help leaders organize their work and home life for mental clarity. Plus, why clutter is deferred decision making, and why you should never email a co-worker.

🔗 Show Notes

📩 On The Rise Newsletter

🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet

🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy

🎥 Watch on YouTube

Follow @careynieuwhof

Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork

THE CHURCH NETWORK

Feeling overwhelmed in church operations? You're not alone.

Learn more and register today at thechurchnetwork.com/Conference.

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