Michael Freedman is a mathematician who was awarded the Fields Medal in 1986 for his solution of the 4-dimensional Poincare conjecture. Mike has also received numerous other awards for his scientific contributions including a MacArthur Fellowship and the National Medal of Science. In 1997, Mike joined Microsoft Research and in 2005 became the director of Station Q, Microsoft’s quantum computing research lab. As of 2023, Mike is a Senior Research Scientist at the Center for Mathematics and Scientific Applications at Harvard University.
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In this wide-ranging conversation, we give a panoramic view of Mike’s extensive body of work over the span of his career. It is divided into three parts: early, middle, and present day, which respectively include his work on the 4-dimensional Poincare conjecture, his transition to topological physics, and finally his recent work in applying ideas from mathematics and philosophy to social economics. Our conversation is a blend of both the nitty-gritty details and the anecdotal story-telling that can only be obtained from a living legend.
01:34 : Fields Medalist working in industry03:24 : Academia vs industry04:59 : Mathematics and art06:33 : Technical overviewII. Early Mike: The Poincare Conjecture (PC)
- 08:14 : Introduction, statement, and history
14:30 : Three categories for PC (topological, smooth, PL)17:09 : Smale and PC for d at least 517:59 : Homotopy equivalence vs homeomorphism22:08 : Joke23:24 : Morse flow33:21 : Whitney Disk41:47 : Casson handles50:24 : Manifold factors and the Whitehead continuum1:00:39 : Donaldson’s results in the smooth category1:04:54 : (Not) writing up full details of the proof then and now1:08:56 : Why Perelman succeededII. Mid Mike: Topological Quantum Field Theory (TQFT) and Quantum Computing (QC)
1:11:42: Cliff Taubes, Raoul Bott, Ed Witten1:12:40 : Computational complexity, Church-Turing, and Mike’s motivations1:24:01 : Why Mike left academia, Microsoft’s offer, and Station Q1:29:23 : Topological quantum field theory (according to Atiyah)1:34:29 : Anyons and a theorem on Chern-Simons theories1:38:57 : Relation to QC1:46:08 : Universal TQFT1:55:57 : Witten: Donalson theory cannot be a unitary TQFT2:01:22 : Unitarity is possible in dimension 32:05:12 : Relations to a theory of everything?2:07:21 : Where topological QC is nowIII. Present Mike: Social Economics
2:14:02 : Lionel Penrose and voting schemes2:21:01 : Radical markets (pun intended)2:25:45 : Quadratic finance/funding2:30:51 : Kant’s categorical imperative and a paper of Vitalik Buterin, Zoe Hitzig, Glen Weyl2:36:54 : Gauge equivariance2:38:32 : Bertrand Russell: philosophers and differential equations- 2:46:20 : Final thoughts on math, science, philosophy
2:51:22 : Career adviceMike’s Harvard lecture on PC4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSF0i6BO1Ig
Behrens et al. The Disc Embedding Theorem.
M. Freedman. Spinoza, Leibniz, Kant, and Weyl. arxiv:2206.14711
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