Former judge Stephen Charles AO QC and Dr Catherine Williams discuss what a robust and effective federal integrity commission looks like, as well as other accountability bodies and measures needed to protect our democracy from corruption. These include reforms to our political donations system, among many others. Their new book is called, Keeping Them Honest: The Case for a Genuine National Integrity Commission and Other Vital Democratic Reforms. Stephen Charles QC is a former Judge of Appeal in the Supreme Court of Victoria and Dr Catherine Williams is research director of the Centre for Public Integrity.