Today on the show, Allen discusses the twin catastrophes of capitalism and the climate crisis with ecosocialist activist Ian Angus.

Among other things, they talk about the problem with ecofascist arguments about “overpopulation,” why the COVID-19 pandemic is an ecological crisis, and the promises of ecosocialism.

Ian Angus is the founder and editor of the ecosocialist journal Climate & Capitalism. He is the author of several books, including The Global Fight for Climate Justice: Anticapitalist Responses to Global Warming and Ecological Destruction (Fernwood, 2010), Facing the Anthropocene: Fossil Capitalism and the Crisis of the Earth System (Monthly Review Press, 2016), and A Redder Shade of Green: Intersections of Science and Socialism (Monthly Review Press, 2017).

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