The Change

Join us for our last episode and change chat for season 2. 

We have had so much fun talking to incredible women this season and have a lovely chat rounding out the season. 

We talk about the challenges of midlife, specifically the importance of self-kindness, rest and play! 

Our change chat topic centres around older women disappearing in the workplace and the importance of creating a workplace that encourages older women to stay. 

We also share a bunch of recommendations with links below. 

Recommendations: 

-Book - Because I'm not myself you see Ariane Beeston

-Movies - Family Affair - Netflix and Anyone but you - Binge 

-Podcast Bronwyn by Hedley Thomas

Article links:

Why midlife women walk out of corporate jobs by Laetitia Vitaud

Why Menopause-Friendly Workplaces Are Better For Everybody by Holly Corbett 

Hosts:

Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/

Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/

A big thanks to our Season Sponsor: https://aliviowellness.com.au/

Use the code TheChange for 20% discount at the checkout 

Audio Producer: 

Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/

Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast. 

We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review! 

Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠

And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: [email protected]

Trigger Warning: Listener discretion is advised. This episode discusses mental health, and alcoholism. If you find yourself in need of support please see the support listed at the end of the show notes. 

Talitha Cummins is likely to be a familiar name to many, most likely because she graced our tv screens reading and reporting on the news for two decades. She also had a high profile battle with alcohol. 

We speak to Talitha about her journey from journalist to jeweller (which is quite the career pivot) and everything in between. We learn all about what a trunk show is and if there is any difference between lab and mined diamonds. 

This is an episode not to be missed, especially if you love a bit of sparkle in your life! 

Hosts:

Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/

Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/

Guest: 

Talitha Cummins https://www.instagram.com/talithacummins/

The Cut Jewellery https://www.instagram.com/thecutjewellery/

Support Serivces: 

Lifeline 13 11 14

Alcoholics Anonymous 1300 222 222 

Beyond Blue 1300 224 636  https://www.beyondblue.org.au/get-support/urgent-help

13YARN 13 92 76 

If you or someone you know is in immediate danger, call 000 immediately.

A big thanks to our Season Sponsor: https://aliviowellness.com.au/

Use the code TheChange for 20% discount at the checkout 

Audio Producer: 

Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/

Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast. 

We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review! 

Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠

And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: [email protected]

Trigger Warning: Listener discretion is advised. This episode discusses eating disorders, child sexual violence, mental health, and trauma. If you find yourself in need of support please see the support listed at the end of the show notes.

Georgia Van Cuylenburg, actor, podcaster and activist, knows a thing or two about resilience. 

While her story and name may be familiar, it’s not because of her words or work. Instead it is the words and work of her brothers Hugh and Josh Van Cuylenburg the hosts of the award-winning podcast, The Imperfects.

Until now Georgia’s story has only been told in parts and not by Georgia herself. Now it is time for Georgia to reclaim her story and share her perspective and version of events.

Georgia spoke exclusively to Laura Jackel and Cathy O’Brien of The Change podcast in a two part special about her childhood, her conversations with Hugh and their ongoing relationship. 

Hosts:

Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/

Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/

Guest: 

Georgia Van Cuylenburg https://www.instagram.com/georgiavanc/

Support Services: 

Lifeline 13 11 14

1800RESPECT 1800 737 732

Beyond Blue 1300 224 636  https://www.beyondblue.org.au/get-support/urgent-help

13YARN 13 92 76 

Butterfly Foundation 

Support for eating disorders and body image issues 1800 33 4673

Blue Knot

This is a support service for adult survivors of childhood trauma and abuse, parents, partners, family and friends. Phone 1300 657 380, 9 am-5 pm, 7 days a week.

Relationships Australia: 1300 364 277

Bravehearts 

Bravehearts can offer support for adult survivors of child sexual abuse

Information & Support Line 1800 272 831 operates during the hours of 8:30am to 4:30pm, Monday to Friday AEST (hours may vary on public holidays).

If you or someone you know is in immediate danger, call 000 immediately.

A big thanks to our Season Sponsor: https://aliviowellness.com.au/

Use the code TheChange for 20% discount at the checkout 

Audio Producer: 

Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/

Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast. 

We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review! 

Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠

And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: [email protected]

Trigger Warning: Listener discretion is advised. This episode discusses eating disorders, child sexual violence, mental health, and trauma. If you find yourself in need of support please see the support listed at the end of the show notes.

Georgia Van Cuylenburg, actor, podcaster and activist, knows a thing or two about resilience. 

While her story and name may be familiar, it’s not because of her words or work. Instead it is the words and work of her brothers Hugh and Josh Van Cuylenburg the hosts of the award-winning podcast, The Imperfects.

Until now Georgia’s story has only been told in parts and not by Georgia herself. Now it is time for Georgia to reclaim her story and share her perspective and version of events.

Georgia spoke exclusively to Laura Jackel and Cathy O’Brien of The Change podcast in a two part special about her childhood, her conversations with Hugh and their ongoing relationship. 

Hosts:

Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/

Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/

Guest: 

Georgia Van Cuylenburg https://www.instagram.com/georgiavanc/

Support Serivces: 

Lifeline 13 11 14

1800RESPECT 1800 737 732

Beyond Blue 1300 224 636  https://www.beyondblue.org.au/get-support/urgent-help

13YARN 13 92 76 

Butterfly Foundation 

Support for eating disorders and body image issues 1800 33 4673

Blue Knot

This is a support service for adult survivors of childhood trauma and abuse, parents, partners, family and friends. Phone 1300 657 380, 9 am-5 pm, 7 days a week.

Relationships Australia: 1300 364 277

Bravehearts 

Bravehearts can offer support for adult survivors of child sexual abuse

Information & Support Line 1800 272 831 operates during the hours of 8:30am to 4:30pm, Monday to Friday AEST (hours may vary on public holidays).

If you or someone you know is in immediate danger, call 000 immediately.

A big thanks to our Season Sponsor: https://aliviowellness.com.au/

Use the code TheChange for 20% discount at the checkout 

Audio Producer: 

Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/

Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast. 

We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review! 

Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠

And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: [email protected]

Trish Bolton is writer and communications professional who has just published her first novel ‘Whenever You’re Ready’ in her sixties.

We talk to Trish about her writing processes, why older women have been so invisible in media, literature and pop culture, and why thanks to writers like her this is finally changing.

Trish chats about the different grief we feel as we age; grief for the past versions of ourselves, for dreams that never realised, and for the planet.

Hosts:

Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/

Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/

Guest:

Trish Bolton, author of ‘Whenever You’re Ready’

https://www.instagram.com/trishboltonwriter?igsh=MW1jZGY4aG9hem84MQ==

A big thanks to our Season Sponsor: https://aliviowellness.com.au/

Use the code TheChange for 20% discount at the checkout 

Audio Producer: 

Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/

Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast. 

We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review! 

Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠

And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: chang

This week Cathy and Laura discuss a recent article published in The Cut called ‘The Power of Discretion after 60’ 

Is it better to ‘dress for your age’ or dress how ever the feck you want? Laura and Cathy discuss the theory behind the article and how the ideas have played out in their own lives. 

The duo also share recommendations with links below. 

Hosts:

Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/

Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/

Recommendations: 

-Heist Creative - Branding photography in Sydney and Melbourne 

-Book - Mrs Winterbottom Takes a Gap Year by Joanna Nell

-TV shows - Bodkin on Netflix and Morning Wars on Apple TV

-Podcast episode - How to Fail with Salman Rushdie 

-Instagram account - Candace Leslie Cima ‘Life in my 70s’

A big thanks to our Season Sponsor: https://aliviowellness.com.au/

Use the code TheChange for 20% discount at the checkout 

Audio Producer: 

Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/

Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast. 

We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review! 

Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠

And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: [email protected]

Trigger Warning: Listener discretion is advised. This episode discusses domestic and sexual violence, mental health, trauma and alcoholism. If you find yourself in need of support please see the support listed at the end of the show notes. 

Join us as we talk to Ali Anderson. She is a powerhouse who has lived many lives. 

Ali is a self-described high functioning alcoholic, a mother of 3 adult daughters and a late bloomer as she calls it. 

We talk about alcoholism, mental health, domestic violence and finding a way to the other side. 

It is an inspiring conversation about how we are never defined by our past, it is what we do next when we realise that we are on a path that is not where we want to be. 

Support Services: 

Lifeline 13 11 14

1800RESPECT 1800 737 732

Alcoholics Anonymous 1300 222 222 

Beyond Blue 1300 224 636  https://www.beyondblue.org.au/get-support/urgent-help

13YARN 13 92 76 

If you or someone you know is in immediate danger, call 000 immediately.

Hosts:

Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/

Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/

Guest: Ali Anderson https://www.linkedin.com/in/ali-anderson1705/ 

Season Sponsor: https://aliviowellness.com.au/

Use the code TheChange for 20% discount at the checkout 

Audio Producer: 

Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/

Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast. 

We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review! 

Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠

And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: [email protected]

This week Cathy and Laura chat about female desire, male escorts and shame with Anna Grosman. 

Fifty-two-year-old Anna Grosman, is an accomplished entrepreneur with a passion for empowering women. As one of the founders of Aphrodisiac Male Escorts which thrived from 2012 – 2018, Anna is now the founder and owner of HerConfidant - an elite male escort agency for women. 

Warm, nurturing and no-nonsense, Anna advocates for female sexuality without stigma and shame. In fact, she’ll be the reassuring voice you’ll hear on the phone if and when you decide to book an appointment! 

Hosts:

Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/

Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/

Guest: Anna Grosman 

https://www.instagram.com/herconfidant/

https://herconfidant.com.au

Season Sponsor: https://aliviowellness.com.au/

Use the code TheChange for 20% discount at the checkout 

Audio Producer: 

Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/

Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast. 

We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review! 

Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠

And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: [email protected]

In this episode we speak to the formidable Kylee Stone, a proud descendant of the Waka Waka and Kullili First Nations People. 

Kylee is a storyteller at her core. She has re-invented herself many times throughout her life as a former Director at NewsCorp, Kylee’s career is marked by excellence in leadership development, growth, innovation and resilience. 

We have a fascinating chat with Kylee about connection, reinvention and her relationship with change. 

We hope you enjoy this chat with Kylee as much as we did. 

Hosts:

Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/

Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/

Guest: Kylee Stone

https://www.theperformancecode.co/

https://www.instagram.com/kyleejstone/ 

Season Sponsor: https://aliviowellness.com.au/

Use the code TheChange for 20% discount at the checkout 

Audio Producer: 

Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/

Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast. 

We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review! 

Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠
And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: changepod202

Anne Stephens is a teacher, mother to two sets of adult twins and now a grandmother. Some of you may know Anne as the outspoken Outlouder and mum to Jessie and Clare Stephens AKA - ‘The Twins’.

Anne tells us all about the differences of raising kids in the 90s compared with now and the surprising parts of becoming a grandmother. She gives us some great career advice and notes on when to lean in or not and why our generation might just have it sorted when it comes to perimenopause.

Hosts:

Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/

Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/

Guest: Anne Stephens 

Mentions: 

The Imperfects episode with Dr Louise Newson https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/dr-louise-newson-maybe-its-menopause/id1476501557?i=1000634548608

Audio Producer: 

Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/

Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast. 

We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review! 

Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠

And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: [email protected]