本期节目在波士顿 ATA 第66届年会现场录制。主持人 Rony Gao 对谈嘉宾 先思瑾，聆听她从笔译、字幕翻译到会议口译的励志旅程。思瑾分享了 ATA 集体如何帮助她走出舒适圈、重拾自信、让人生“彩虹重现”的故事，包括她毅然前往蒙特雷进修，并在国际口译大赛中荣获第一名的经历。节目最后，两人还探讨了人工智能时代口译行业的未来，以及“人之所以为人”的不可替代价值。

节目里提到sijin的个人网站，网址为：www.xiansijin.com

在本期《译声》节目中，Jessie 与 ATA 理事会成员、口译员分会负责人 Christina Green 展开深入对谈，聚焦威斯康星州最新提出的议会法案 AB 292 与参议院法案 SB 295。

这两项法案拟允许威州法院在民事、刑事、行政等案件中使用人工智能或机器翻译工具来取代人工口译员。Christina 结合亲身经历，剖析法案的起源、推动者的动机，以及其对语言平权与司法公正可能带来的严重影响。

节目还探讨了口译员在立法倡导中的角色、不同政治派别的沟通策略，以及人机替代带来的现实风险。

????️ 欢迎收听这场关于人工智能、法律与语言正义的深度对话——我们必须共同发声，守护口笔译专业的未来。

In this insightful episode, Jessie talks with nationally recognized language policy expert Dr. Bill Rivers to unpack the implications of Executive Order 14224, which declared English the official language of the United States. Dr. Rivers offers historical, legal, and policy context for the order, explains what it does—and doesn’t—do, and addresses concerns about its impact on language access rights and jobs in the T&I profession. From civil rights protections to health care and education mandates, this conversation clarifies the current state of language services and advocacy in the U.S. Whether you’re a translator, interpreter, language educator, or policy watcher, this is a must-listen episode filled with clarity, wisdom, and practical takeaways.

在这一期富有洞察力的播客中，Jessie 与全美知名语言政策专家 Bill Rivers 博士展开对话，深入解析第14224号行政命令的影响——该命令宣布英语为美国的官方语言。Rivers 博士从历史、法律和政策多个维度，解释了该命令的实质内容与局限，并回应了语言服务行业对于语言服务权利和就业前景所产生的疑虑。从民权保护到医疗与教育的法律义务，这场对话澄清了当前美国语言服务与倡导工作的真实状况。无论你是译员、口译员、语言教育者，还是政策观察者，这都是一集不容错过的播客内容——为你带来清晰的视角、专业的见解和切实可行的信息。

Jessie hosts Tianlu Redmon in the third installment of the ATA Chinese Language Division (CLD) conference series from the ATA65 conference in Portland, Oregon. Tianlu shares her volunteer journey, starting in local ATA chapters and leading the CLD with a “family-like” spirit through initiatives like monthly online socials during the pandemic. She reflects on the professional rewards of her involvement and her “gentle yet firm” leadership style, which inspired many to engage more deeply with the ATA. Tianlu describes her pride in seeing the next generation of linguists connect at the conference, including at the well-attended CLD dinner. Though stepping down as CLD administrator, Tianlu plans to stay active in AFTI and the certification exam program to support and mentor upcoming translators and interpreters.

本期播客节目中天璐分享了她从ATA地方分会开始的志愿者之旅，并通过疫情期间的每月线上社交活动等举措，以“家人般”的精神领导中文分会。她回顾了参与其中带来的个人成长与事业收获，以及自己“温柔而坚定”的领导风格，激励了许多人更深入地参与ATA。天璐表达了在年会上看到新一代口笔译同事们积极建互动的自豪，特别是在CLD聚餐活动中的热情参与。尽管即将卸任CLD会长职位，天璐计划继续活跃在AFTI基金会和认证考试项目中，以支持和指导未来的口笔译同仁。

In this finale episode of the special conference series, Jessie sits down with Liming Pals, the current Administrator of the Chinese Language Division (CLD) at ATA, live from ATA65 in Portland, Oregon. Liming shares her journey from assistant administrator to division leader, reflecting on how volunteering shaped her professional growth and leadership skills. She also discusses the evolving trends in technology, including AI and video localization, and the opportunities to bridge gaps between freelancers and buyers in the translation industry. Tune in to learn about her vision for CLD and the role of confidence and collaboration in driving success. Don’t miss the exciting discussion and a glimpse into the future at ATA66 in Boston!

在本次特别会议系列的压轴节目中，主持人 Jessie 与现任美国翻译协会 (ATA) 中文语言分会（CLD）会长 Liming Pals 进行了一场精彩的对谈，现场录制于俄勒冈州波特兰的 ATA65 年会现场。Liming 回顾了她从助理会长到分会领导的历程，分享了志愿工作如何塑造了她的职业成长和领导力。她还谈到技术趋势的演变，包括人工智能和视频本地化的应用，以及如何弥合译员和翻译买家之间的认知差距。本期节目揭示了 CLD 的未来愿景，同时强调了自信与协作在成功中的重要作用。别错过这场精彩的讨论，并期待 2025 年 10 月在波士顿举办的 ATA66！

Long-time CLD member and ATA certification exam grader Aaron Hebenstreit joins Rony Gao in discussing his career journey and the challenges and advantages of being a non-native Chinese speaker working as a Chinese-English translator and interpreter. He shares memorable projects such as translating UN documents and emceeing bilingual events in the local Chinese community. Aaron emphasizes the value of ATA certification, advising potential candidates to familiarize themselves with grading standards and take practice tests. Aaron and Rony also highlight the practical nature of the ATA annual conference and encourage fellow CLD members to submit proposals to present at future ATA conferences.

本集CLD播客邀请到了CLD的老朋友、ATA认证考试阅卷官Aaron Hebenstreit（何安仁）畅谈职业生涯和过去8年里的ATA年会见闻。学工科出身的他如何走上翻译的职业生涯？为联合国担任笔译是怎样一种体验？作为非华裔背景的美国人从事中文翻译有哪些苦乐酸甜和意外收获？最后，Aaron和主持人Rony一同呼吁各位同行踊跃提交演讲提纲，争取在未来的ATA年会上分享第一手的从业心得。

Rony Gao interviews Hongyan Xu (Jack), a seasoned language professional with over 12 years of experience both in managerial roles at a mid-sized LSP and as a freelance translator and interpreter. Jack discusses the evolution of the language services industry in Canada, recounts memorable experiences in his multi-pronged career, emphasizes the value of freelancers' insights for LSPs and shares his experiences with the ATA annual conferences.

Jack’s translation sample: Twelve Animal Zodiac Poem https://bit.ly/12zodiac-hongyan-xu

本集播客的嘉宾徐宏彦（Jack）热情分享他在加拿大语言翻译行业摸爬滚打12年的第一手观察经验。他既作为中层管理人员在翻译公司（LSP）从事项目管理、市场推广、品牌建设、培训开发，又作为自由译者提供高质量的口笔译专业服务。他在采访中分享了职业生涯中几段最难忘的经历，包括调配口译团队帮助加拿大联邦政府在3个月内紧急安置2万6千名来自叙利亚的难民，以及担任2022年北京冬奥会开闭幕式加拿大电视转播的同声传译等。

Artificial intelligence, it matters less whether it is a friend or a foe than the fact that it is already here. In this 15-minute chat, Jessie and Tony explore the more important questions concerning the T&I realm, i.e. What changes is AI effectuating in the T&I market? What do we tell our existing and potential clients about AI so that they can make an informed decision? And most importantly, how do we want our profession to be perceived by the relevant stakeholders in the age of AI? All that depends on us starting the right dialogue with the outside world. It’s time to have “the talk”. 

AI大潮汹涌而至，是敌是友之辩已不重要。口译员不争取话语权，就要沦为鱼肉任人宰割？ 

在本集的15分钟节目里，主持人Jessie向拥有40年从业经验的过来人、美国资深口译员Tony Rosado请教AI时代的客户教育指南。

Practice makes perfect. Although it’s rare to achieve absolute perfection when interpreting, practice does make it better. If you don’t yet have dedicated simultaneous interpreting practice time scheduled on your daily, weekly or even monthly routine, let this episode be the push that gets you practicing. 

A special episode dedicated to the upcoming ATA64 annual conference. This 10-minute short episode highlights the conference presentations by CLD members as well as the division dinner details. The show notes link in other essential resources and information for the annual conference held in Miami FL.

Registration link to 2-Part webinar facilitated by Ben Karl on conference preparation and virtual network session: https://www.atanet.org/event/ata64-how-to-prepare-and-pre-conference-virtual-networking/

CLD dinner details: 10/26/2023 Thursday, 7:30pm. 2121 Ponce De Leon Blvd in Coral Gables. The cost per person is $32.69. No need to RSVP.

CLD members presentation:

10:45 a.m. - 11:15 a.m. Thursday, October 26 (003) You Don't Need to Be Fluent: The Benefits of Dabbling in Multiple Languages Sara Maria Hasbun

10:45 a.m. - 11:15 a.m. Thursday, October 26 (008) The Challenge of Translating Cultural Expressions from English to Traditional Chinese in the Age of MT Meiyu Liu

10:45 a.m. - 11:15 a.m. Thursday, October 26 (150) Taking ATA's Chinese to English Certification Exam: Common Mistakes and Practical Tips Evelyn Garland Aaron Hebenstreit, CT

10:45 a.m. - 11:45 a.m. Thursday, October 26 (006) Negotiating with Direct Clients Rony Gao, CT

11:30 a.m. - 12:00 p.m. Thursday, October 26 (009) Gender and Sexuality Representation in Audio Descriptions: A Contrastive Study of The Danish Girl and Tracey Amanda Hiu Tung Chow Jackie Xiu Yan

1:45 p.m. - 2:45 p.m. Thursday, October 26 (032) Business Models for Freelance Interpreters and Translators Liming Pals, CT

3:30 p.m. - 4:30 p.m. Thursday, October 26 (039) A Guide to Chinese Scientific, Technical, and Political Jargon in Translation Aaron Hebenstreit, CT Ben Murphy, CT

11:00 a.m. - 12:00 p.m. Friday, October 27 (055) Unpacking Chinese to English Interpreting: Eight Techniques and Five Steps Rony Gao, CT

11:45 a.m. - 12:15 p.m. Friday, October 27 (061) Communicating Culture in a Large Multinational Company: A Translator’s Perspective Qiuyi Zhu

2:00 p.m. - 3:00 p.m. Friday, October 27 (037) New Frontier for the Linguist-Centered Enterprise Julie H. Tay Paula Azevedo, CT Romina, CT Marazzato Sparano Pency Tsai

2:00 p.m. - 3:00 p.m. Friday, October 27 (068) Advocacy Strategies: Effective Storytelling for Language Professionals Nicolás Arízaga Ben Karl, CT Lorena Ortiz Schneider, CT Bill Rivers Jennifer Santiagos

4:45 p.m. - 5:45 p.m. Friday, October 27 (098) Panel Discussion: Starting Out in the T&I Profession Jessie Liu Rony Gao, CT Robert Holloway

4:45 p.m. - 5:45 p.m. Friday, October 27 (104) Curricular Redesign of T&I Degrees: Aligning with Changing Market Needs and Deep Shifts in Higher Ed Laura Burian Julie Johnson

10:15 a.m. - 11:15 a.m. Saturday, October 28 (131) Bidirectionality: Simultaneously Interpreting Into and Out of Your A Language Robert Holloway Céline Browning Laura Burian

11:30 a.m. - 12:00 p.m. Saturday, October 28 (142) Enhancing Legal Interpreting with AI Tools: ChatGPT and Beyond Tianlu Redmon, CT

12:15 p.m. - 12:45 p.m. Saturday, October 28 (191) Variations in Translating Chinese into English: Semantics, Syntax, and Grammar Meiyu Liu