The Chris DeBlasio Podcast

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January 23, 2020 Nick Carse has built a FROZEN empire! Find out how the King Of Pops Co-Founder did it... on C-Level
Nick Carse has built a FROZEN empire! Find out how the King Of Pops Co-Founder did it... on C-Level
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- You know what's interesting. So you take your failures.

- Yup.

- Or what you think is a failure, right. Because I don't actually love all of our pops.

- Right.

- And you put that out there to the world and it is somebody's favorite pop.

- [Chris] Yes.

- And they're gonna remember it forever.

- Yup.

- And so, it's kind of like, I don't know, in your industry, a bad movie or a bad advertisement that you think, like, "We went the totally wrong way with that."
- Right.

- Someone is gonna remember it and quote it forever.

- [Chris] On this episode of C Level, I'm chilling with the king himself, Nick Carse, co-founder of King of Pops.

- I'm super excited about this episode, because it focuses on a lot of people that, they have a career already, and they have a business idea, and making that decision that, you know, making that decision to actually go after their passion.

- Yeah.

- But for the small people, the small amount of people that don't know who you guys are,

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January 14, 2020 Do you want to know what makes sales both EASY and HARD at the same time? Find out on C-Level with Guest expert marketer and salesman Ryan Sauers of Sauers Consulting Strategies
Do you want to know what makes sales both EASY and HARD at the same time? Find out on C-Level with Guest expert marketer and salesman Ryan Sauers of Sauers Consulting Strategies
- [Chris] On this episode of C-Level, I'm speaking with Ryan Sauers, President and CMO of Sauers Consulting Strategies.

- So Ryan, so thank you so much for coming out. You got several books out, you've got a consulting firm, you do a lot of speaking. I'm really excited about today's episode because we get to talk about sales and marketing and how that plays in the workplace. But I'm really big on people's journey. So tell me yours. Like, how did you get started? How did you get into all this? Where you from?

- Absolutely, well, thanks for having me, Chris. I appreciate it. I'm actually an Atlanta native.

- [Chris] Cool.

- So, in today's world, that's the outlier, I guess. But, yeah, I always had an interest in sales, communications, human behavior, marketing. And even when I was an undergraduate, I kinda parlayed communications, public relations, marketing courses to get to kinda what I thought I would do. And yeah, these things you name have come together because I have a passion for improving human performance and all the things you named. And so my story has been year by year, step by step, person by person, relationship by relationship, and it's kinda led me to where I am now, which is crazy, it's busy, but it's a good busy. It's fun. I stay, I have my hands on a lot of things but I love it. I absolutely love it.

- So where in Atlanta are you from?

- Originally, I was in like the Decatur-ish area.

- [Chris] Yeah, yeah.

- And then I lived in another part of DeKalb County. I now have raised up three daughters. One in college at Georgia Tech, one a junior who's gonna play soccer in college, and then my baby, I call her, she's 12. And she's in middle school. My wife of like 23 years, but we are now in Gwinnett. So, one time, long-term I'm gonna to get to Florida and live by the water. That's my final.

- [Chris] Yeah, there you go.

- But, I promised the family we would be here for the while but yeah, that's where we are.

- [Chris] It's cool. So, what was it about, was it something early on that you knew that you wanted to learn more about sales and learn about marketing? Did this start like before school, while in school, out of school?

- You know, that's a great question, Chris. I remember my dad telling me on the trip to college, he was showing me like we'd get to a fast food restaurant and he said, "Somebody sold that concrete, "somebody sold that building, "somebody sold this real estate space, "somebody sold this sign." And I kinda halfway listened. But I realized even when, like at high school, I did the yearbook sales. And I did it mainly, for anybody listening, when they're all tuned in later. I did it because you could get out of three class periods and go off-campus.

- [Chris] Right? But I'd get a way to get out.
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January 13, 2020 Workplace Culture? The Workplace Therapist tells us the secret to a good workplace
Workplace Culture? The Workplace Therapist tells us the secret to a good workplace
- On this episode of C Level, I'm hanging out with The Workplace Therapist, Brandon Smith and the podcast host of The Brandon Smith Show. So Brandon, thank you for coming out.

- I am so thrilled I get to come here and hang out with you.

- I'm really excited, so you've been on several networks, you were on Ted Talks.

- [Brandon] Right, I have, yup.

- You have a show called The Workplace Therapist.

- [Brandon] I do.

- And I'm really excited about this episode because we get to talk about the emotion of a leader and how it affects the workplace, the culture of a company, and that's a big thing, so I want to hear your story. So where did you get started? Where are you from?

- Oh, wow, so okay, so yeah, so today, what I do is basically help organizations and leaders to create healthier workplaces. So I'll tell you how that kind of got started for me. So I'll come jump into middle portion of the story. So I went to Vanderbilt undergraduate and got a degree in Communications, and like most good Communication majors, I was unemployed at graduation, wondering what am I gonna do with this thing? And I went looking for a job, looking for a job, and I ended up getting this job with this chain of retail stores. It was a family-owned business and it was privately held, so they've got 15 stores kind of around the metro area, and they hired me to be the assistant manager of one of these stores. So to give you a little backdrop into this business, it was a family-owned business, and the woman who started the business, her daughter marries this guy, and he becomes my boss, so the son-in-law of the business. So I show up on the first day of work and he greets me at the door. He says, "Brandon, I'm really excited to have you here. "You're gonna be the assistant manager of the store, "but before you get started, I have a task for you. "Waiting for you in the back room "is the current assistant manager of the store, "but he doesn't know you're coming, "so your job is to go back there and fire him "and you get his job."

- [Chris] That's awesome, first task.

- First day, first task, I didn't walk in the door yet, and he says, "Go back there and fire that guy, you get his job," and that was how my boss rolled. He'd come in, he loves surprise visits. So part of where I became so passionate about this work that I do is by having a world-class, horrible boss. So he did all the things that bosses shouldn't do. He loves surprise visits, he loved trying to catch you doing something wrong. So he would come in and surprise visit and he'd say, "I don't like what Sharon's wearing, go fire her." So I had to do more layoffs in the first six months of that job than any other time in my career, even now. And so during the time I kind of realized, really, three things. First, I realized work should not have to suck. It should be a source of fulfillment and meaning and purpose, not a source of anxiety and stress and depression. I mean, it is work. I mean, you're gonna get some of that stuff, but it should be more of the good stuff. Second, if my boss was any indication of the state of leadership today in the workplace, there was a real need, so I wanted to try and tackle that. And then third, that was where my purpose was born. I said, man, I want to fix all workplace dysfunction everywhere forever, having no idea what I just signed up for. So back in those days--
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December 30, 2019 If you have a Job you need to hear what this Lawyer has to say
If you have a Job you need to hear what this Lawyer has to say!
On this episode of C-Level, I speak with Chandra Davis, attorney and co-founding partner of ELS, The Employment Law Solution Firm.

- So, Chandra thank you so much for being on the episode. I'm excited about this episode because, one of the biggest things when an entrepreneur or somebody scales you're gonna need to hire people, right? And you are the expert in this field, and you're gonna give a whole background and everything on the right and wrong ways of doing it. But first, I'm very interested in people's story. So give me your background, where'd you start, where'd you grow up, and how'd you get into law, and what are you doin' right now? .

- Well my background.

- Yeah.

- I'm a Jersey girl born and raised.

- Yep, Bloomfield.

- Plainfields.

- There you go, okay.

- And spent 18 years of my life in New Jersey. I went to a very small private school called the Pengrey School in New Jersey. And I knew I wanted to live somewhere else different. I loved growing from Jersey, I'm glad I'm from there, but I was ready to experience some different aspects of life.

- Did you miss the cold, like the snow and stuff?

- I miss seeing the snow.

- Yeah. I don't miss the snow.

- I don't miss being in the snow, per se, especially as an adult. But I miss snow days, like snow days were the bomb.

- Right, right .

- Which is really ice, ice, and then snow on top of it. Then you were good.

- Yeah, scratchin' it off in the morning.

- Absolutely right. But when I decided to look at colleges, I went and looked at lots of different colleges. I probably was the college advisor's favorite kid, because I was in there all the time, trying to decide where I wanted to be. And I went to, my small school in the '80s and '90s, did not have any African-American students at all. So I wanted to date, so I decided I was gonna go to a place where there were more African-American males. And so I came down to Atlanta, went to Emery university, but we have the Morehouse college and lots of other universities in the area. And did not find my husband there, but I loved Emery. And from Emery I have worked in higher education field. And so I went to the university of Georgia for my master's degree in higher ed.

- Mm-hmm, bulldogs.
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December 20, 2019 How do you get things around the world quickly and safely? Answer: Have a good team!
How do you get things around the world quickly and safely? Answer: Have a good team!
- [Chris] On this episode of C Level I talk with Brian Oxley and Enrique Alvarez of Vector Global Logistics. So tell me a little bit about you guys and your business. - So, my name is Enrique Alvarez. I'm originally from Mexico city. I came to the US in 2004 to study B-School. I went to Wharton, Philadelphia. Graduated in 06, and then came down to Atlanta to work for the Boston Consulting Group. That's where I met Brian. We were both doing consulting for almost three years, where we wanted to start something on our own. We thought about different projects and different potential ventures, and we looked into logistics, and for us, logistics was a very interesting industry. - So why logistics? What interests you the most? - Well, after conducting a couple of weeks of due diligence, and just interviewing some people, and really getting to know the industry well, after a project that we did for a company down in Mexico, we realized that the industry was very fragmented. There's a lot of mom-and-pop shops out there. There's a lot of large international companies that are doing logistics, but even those big players are not, uh-- don't account for a lot of the market share in the industry. So it was very fragmented. The other thing that we found is that the economy wasn't very good. It was really a lot of companies going under, unfortunately. So, time-wise, we thought that that could be an opportunity. And, I guess I'll take a step back, and I'll just tell you a bit more about what our company is, and what kind of industry we're participating in. I mean, we're an NVOCC, which is a Non-Vessel Operating Common Carrier which is a logistics company, an international logistics company, and what that basically means is we have contracts with a lot of different suppliers, a lot of different contracts and contacts with agents around the world, and we're shipping ocean containers for our clients. So, someone calls us and tells us that they need to ship 10 containers from Savannah, Georgia, to Nigeria, Lagos, and we not only coordinate loading the container, making sure the container gets there on time, making sure that it's loaded in the two hours that we have, but then also making sure the container returns to the port, goes to the other end of the world, and then we do the same thing at the other end of the world with our agents. - I can't imagine how difficult it is. I mean, I can't even plan a company party with my office, let alone, like, shipping something across the world, so--
- When we got into it we found-- in looking at different opportunities beyond logistics, we found that logistics was a good opportunity for us because, as Enrique started to mention earlier, it was, you know, very fragmented, a lot of smaller companies, it was kinda like the Wild West where people were moving freight, doing whatever they wanted to do, but their mindset, what we found in the industry, is just people don't-- people did it okay. They didn't do it well. They didn't communicate to the customer and be proactive, and the freight companies would try and price gouge the clients where they would try and charge an exorbitant margin. They were trying to maximize their margin on each and every shipment, versus thinking about the long-term value of the client. And, for us, when we got into the industry that was our approach, right? And coming from our roots of BCG, it was all about thinking about the long-term value of the client. And, so we don't wanna ship with that company for this shipment, or the next shipment, we wanna ship with them for the next-
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December 12, 2019 How do you get a Tech Start-up off of the ground?
How do you get a Tech Start-up off of the ground?
- On this episode of C-level, I talk with Michael Sengbush, CEO and Co-founder of Eletype. So, Mike, thanks for coming out. So I'm really excited because we get to talk about two of my biggest passions, which is start-up companies and tech. And the ecosystem in Atlanta, what does it look like with the future of tech that's coming here now. And how Georgia's growing as a whole. So thank you for coming out.

- Thanks for having me. I mean, I love this topic. I love what you guys talk about on this program and I think we'll have a great conversation.

- Yeah, absolutely. So give me your background. Give me your story.

- Yeah, well, I guess I'm a software developer by trade. I'm not originally from Atlanta. I moved down to Atlanta in 1996 for the Olympics and if anybody was here in '96, you know in '96 things were boomin'; it was happening.

- I think the Olympics had a lot to do with pulling a lotta people down here. They started experiencing Atlanta.

- I mean, it was the catalyst for kinda what's been driving the city over the last 25 years, right? And so just being here the whole time, seeing it go from the Olympics to where it is now, has been amazing. I moved down, went to Georgia Tech, I got a computer science degree, spent the first half of my career being a software developer. Went from software development into product development and product management. And then got the entrepreneurial bug and started working in technology start-ups here in Atlanta. And in the last year and a half or so, I started my own company. And we are currently based at Ponce City Market. Again, talking about what things booming in Atlanta, if you've been to Ponce City Market, it's the spot to be.

- Amazing. Oh yeah. Yeah they'd redesigned the whole place and...

- It's a great spot to be.

- Yeah, it's awesome. So where did you move from? I didn't catch that.

- I moved down from Rochester New York.

- Oh, okay, cool. I'm from Jersey, so.

- Okay. Well, so are you going back any time soon or?

- For a wedding. That's about it.

- I moved down in '96 because I had an uncle that lived down here. And summer vacation, for me, was always coming down to Atlanta. And as soon as I graduated high school, I was like, packed my bags and I was like, "I'm out." And stayed 'cause Atlanta's a great spot to be. It's not just a great spot to go to school, but it's a great spot to start a career, start a family, and there's really not a lot of great reasons to leave.

- Right.

- It's just a good spot to be.

- You have everything here. That's what I love about this city is unlike New York, I mean, yeah you have your New York, I love New York. I do, I love New York a lot 'cause I spent a lot of time in New York and then in LA, but what's cool about Atlanta is you've got the city, but then the farther out you go, it starts getting country, which is kinda cool. And then if you go south, I mean, four hours, five hours, you're at the beach.
- You're at the beach.

- So it's like it's a cool spot. Not to mention the international airport. I mean, literally, you can just hop on a plane. I mean, we do a lot of stuff filming in New York and LA. I hop on a plane, I can go out to New York. I can go out to LA. It's not a big deal.

- Yeah, I think Atlanta, it's a really balanced city. And just kind of typical Atlanta, we're always really good at a lot of things. We're never the best at anything, whether it's sports or whether it's business, or whatever it might be. We're always just pretty close, but we're really good in everything.
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December 04, 2019 This is the life and business advice that the Dr. ordered
This is the life and business advice that the Dr. ordered
- [Chris] On this episode of C Level, I talked with Doctor Shelton Goode, President and CEO of Icarus Consulting.

- So Shelton, thank you for having us come out. I know a little bit of your background and today, we're gonna be talking about diversification of workplace and team building and stuff.

- Right.

- And I wanna hear it from you. So, how did you get-- Where did you come from, grew up, how did you get started, how did you get into all these?

- Okay, so, let's go backwards.

- [Chris] Yeah.

- Let's go to backwards. So I'm currently the CEO and president of Icarus Consulting. Icarus Consulting is a veteran-owned firm, and we specialize in human resource management consulting.

- [Chris] Okay.

- But our superpower is helping companies recruit in a very competitive landscape. Make sure that they get their share of the talent. But we do some a little bit better than some other folks. We also concentrate for our clients on their current workforce. So many companies are so focused on getting you know, that talent in.

- Right, right.

- It's diverse, it's young, it's people of color, it's women, and everybody's so focused on that, that sometimes their current workforce feels like they're being overlooked. So we make sure that while they're trying to get that diverse talent from the emerging workforce, that they think about and focus on their current people. And then, once they do get that workforce, that talent in, that they keep it.

- Right.

- Because it's really competitive, and it's almost cheaper and easier to poach from other companies than go out and source for new talent so we make sure that companies have an inclusive workplace which we believe is the secret sauce to retaining employees.

- Yeah, absolutely. And I love the fact that your current employees, right? That's important too.

- Yes.

- 'Cause you're bringing new talent and sometimes people that have been around for a long time, it's like, oh there's this new talent coming in, so making sure that they still feel as important.
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November 21, 2019 What is a REIT and how does it make YOU money?
- On this episode of "C-Level," I'm visited by my good friend Brad Thomas, the CEO of iREIT, and the author of "The Trump Factor."

- So, tell me, what exactly is a REIT? You're a REIT expert, so tell me a little bit about that.

- Sure. Well first off, you got it right, it is REIT, and it rhymes with beet, rhymes with sweet, all that, so I get, that's the first misconception is, "How do you pronounce it?" REIT stands for real estate investment trust. A REIT is an investment vehicle, like a stock, essentially, so it's a real estate stock, a real estate security. The REIT laws were formed in 1960, so over 50 years ago, actually during the Eisenhower administration, as part of, actually the Cigar Act, and don't ask me why it was under the Cigar Act, but that's what it was, I guess there was a lot of cigars at the time, or people were celebrating. But it was also the period of time in which President Eisenhower was paving the way, paving this country with infrastructure, highways, and so it's really interesting that not only did President Eisenhower pave the way for us to drive across the country, but really, he's paved the way for individual investors to get access to institutionally held commercial real estate, so that's precisely how the laws, or why the law was created over 50 years ago, so that individual investors could enjoy owning a piece of the Empire State Building, or a mall, or a shopping center, or a data center, or a number of other property sectors, so it's really designed for an individual investor, not the institutional investor, so that's really important. So the big thing that I wanna talk about as it relates to REITs, and why this law was structured, I guess the most important characteristic for this REIT is REITs pay out higher dividends than most ordinary stocks. Why is that? Because REITs must by law, that law that was created, again, in 1960, REITs must pay out at least 90% of their taxable income, most pay out close to 100% of their taxable income, so that means that most REITs are gonna yield, that average yield today in the REIT sector in the US is something in around 5%, 4 1/2 to 5%, whereas the ordinary S&P 500 is much less than that, about a half of that, so a lot of retirees have really gravitated to this space, because of the income element and really the flight to quality of income and the thirst for yield, so that's what really makes this a really important asset class.

- Awesome. I've invested in real estate, so I started out really young, like I bought my first property at like my early 20s, or 23, or something like that, and then my strategy was like just buying up these properties myself, like single-family homes and stuff like that, and then renting it out, so what, in your opinion, for somebody instead of just buying up retail properties and renting them out themselves, what are some of the benefits that a REIT could provide the trying to manage everything yourself?
- Sure. Well I did that too, and I've had a lot of duplexes and a lot of that type of property over the years, and so, you suffer the same thing that I suffered, which we call, "The three Ts." Three Ts stands for toilets, trash, and taxes, so those are the things that you have to deal with as a landlord, and they made it very frustrating, it's very stressful. It's hard to sleep well at night, your phone rings all the time, the toilet breaks, the roof breaks, number of other things, so I think that's really one of the things that has really made me, really my passion for this REIT space, because there's a couple of attributes that REITs have today that have always had, that differentiate themselves from ordinary private stock.
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November 13, 2019 Hear how voice of the Atlanta Hawks got started behind the microphone at the age of 12!
Hear how voice of the Atlanta Hawks got started behind the microphone at the age of 12!
- On this episode of C Level, I talk with Bob Rathbun, announcer for the NBA Atlanta Hawks. So Bob, thank you for coming down.

- My pleasure.

- So, I know a little bit of your background but for the small percentage of people that don't know you, give me your story, how did ya get started out and...?

- Sure, I grew up in Salisbury, North Carolina.

- [Chris] Okay.

- My dad was transferred in the company he worked for, and it turned out to be probably the greatest thing that ever happened to the family and to me. And one day, when I was 12 years old, I don't remember being prodded by my parents, I just did it on my own, I picked up the telephone and I called the radio station in our hometown.

- At 12?

- [Bob Rathbun] At 12-years-old.

- Okay.

- WSTP, Salisbury, North Carolina. And I told the announcer on duty, now remember this is a teeny, tiny station. And the announcer on duty, a gentleman with the name of John Bulser answered the phone, and this is a thousand years ago, right? And I said to him I love the station and I like listening to sports and all that. He said, "Well, come on down, I'll give you a tour." So my mom and dad took me down and I got a tour of the station and instantly fell in love with it. And that turned into an every Sunday ritual, where John would be announcing and I would go down and I would do stuff that 12 year old kids would do, took out the garbage, you know.

- Do what you could, sweep the floor, right?

- Right, exactly. And did things that now, nobody knows what you're talking about. I filed records.

- [Chris] Oh wow, yeah.

- And I cleared the wire. You say that to somebody today, cleared the wire?

- What are you talking about? Right.

- But, you know, those of us who know, it's the teletiming, and that's how the news came in. So that's what I did and one Sunday, the sportscaster showed up and he said, "Well, if you love sports and you love radio, help us broadcast these American Legion baseball games." We had a great team, a state championship team. Everybody in town loved them, high school kids. And they packed the park to watch them and that's why the games were bring broadcasted on the radio. And I would keep stats and get the guy a hotdog and that was it until one day, at age 12, the announcer says, "Well," and I'll tell you his name in a minute. He said, "Are you ready to make your debut?" And I said, "Well, I guess I am." and I got the mic in the bottom of the seventh inning of this baseball game. And this team hit three home runs all season, two inside the park and one when I had the mic. Our first baseman, big left-handed hitting guy named Joey Brown turns on. Oh this is forever ago, and he turns on one and skys it over the fence, over the scoreboard, over the Coke sign, gone, home run, and I got to call it. I have no idea what I said.

- It's the excitement.

- The announcer got the mic back at the top of the eighth inning and he said, "Ladies and gentlemen, I've been waiting all season to call a home run." He said, "When we hit one, I got this 12 year old kid on the mic."

- That's awesome.

- And that's how it started for me. The announcer was Marty Brennaman. And if you're, any baseball fans in the audience know him as the Hall of Fame announcer for the Cincinnati Reds, who is going to retire in 2019 at age 77. Still going strong, but he's gonna finally call it quits. And he was just beginning his career at that point, coming out of college, and so that's how we got linked at that age. And my voice was a little higher than him

- Just at 12, you know?
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November 12, 2019 Do you want to have a career in sports? Find out how Brad Olecki the CEO of Trenches Sports got in the Industry
- On this episode of C Level, I speak with Brad Olecki, CEO and founder of TRENCHES Sports & Entertainment Consulting. So Brad, so welcome, so tell me--

- Great to be here.

- Yeah, thank you for coming out. So tell me a little bit about like your background and, you know, just how you got started.

- You know, I've played sports my whole life and I went into college thinking that I was gonna go in and kinda follow my dad's footsteps of being the sales guy in the industrial sales industry, right. Selling toilet paper and napkins and those kind of things--

- Is that what he did?

- I mean that's what I did working in his warehouses, you know, prior to high school and middle school and what not.

- Right

- So, I went in knowing I wanted to be in sales, I didn't know a whole lot about the sports industry. Went to college to play football, got into marketing, fell in love with kinda the brand aspect of things. And then as I was coming out of college I still didn't know what avenue to take to get into sports. So, I was interviewing with, you know, big companies, like 3M and those types of places.

- For sales? For sales jobs?

- Yeah, for sales. General sales jobs, selling, I mean boring stuff. You know, janitory and sanitation products and that kinda stuff. Real, wonderful--

- It's like what do you do? I sell toilet paper.

- Look, you make a lot more money doing that than probably what I did starting off. And a good example of that is I got offered this job by 3M to, you know, make $48,000 a year and a company car and I could go to one of these four cities they offered. And instead of doing that, I took this internship with the Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl and worked for a pretty great group of guys there that taught me a tremendous amount about the business. So I started as a glorified intern, with the Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl here in town. And then you know, from there, just got more into the brand sponsorship side, had a couple mentors that helped me along the way that got me into working for a group that Paul Allen owned, called Action Sports Media. They had a cable channel up in the Pacific Northwest and they were putting in video boards in university football and basketball stadiums and arenas prior to athletic directors wanting to buy the biggest and the best. I don't know if you can remember, back then that everybody had one and athletic directors didn't wanna put the expense together, so

- Right.

- They would install them and we maintained the rights for the signage and the video content. So I started in the fulfillment side of the business, learned a tremendous amount from a mentor of mine named Bill Hodge. And then we, you know, learned how to sell this stuff, learned how to sell, you know, sponsorships. And from there went into another great company with College Sports and ISP Sports, which is now Learfield IMG College after a couple of mergers. Worked in the pro side for a few years with the Hawks and Thrashers. Miss the Thrashers, live hockey is incredible. And then left there and I went to the College Football Hall of Fame. So there's kind of this journey of working on incredible properties that gave me the chance to do what I do now, which I love with Trenches.
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