Have you ever felt disillusioned by the people of God, even when you still believe in God Himself?

Pastor Josh Howerton, Jana Howerton, Carlos Erazo, and Pamela Baltazar dive into a candid, thoughtful conversation around church hurt—what it is, where it stems from, and why it feels so prevalent today. From the dangers of idolizing leaders to the challenges of misunderstood mental health trends, they unpack how cultural shifts may be influencing our expectations of the church. Pamela shares heartfelt insight into honoring imperfect leadership, while Pastor Josh draws from both Scripture and personal experience to offer a healing perspective. This dialogue doesn’t shy away from hard truths but is anchored in grace, wisdom, and hope for reconciliation.

How do we move forward when we’ve been wounded by the very place meant to be a spiritual refuge? This conversation offers a place to begin.

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