What if the entire conversation around clean energy is being framed the wrong way?
Most people think this is about climate policy… or solar vs fossil fuels.
It’s about a much bigger shift—from fuel-based energy to electric systems—and it’s already happening.
In this episode of The Clean Energy Edge Podcast, Russ Bates sits down with Nadim Chaudhry, energy transition advisor and author of ElectroState, to break down what’s actually happening globally—and what most people are still missing.
Why this isn’t about “decarbonization”—it’s about electrificationThe real bottleneck: grid, storage, and system design (not generation)Why economics—not policy—is driving the shiftHow EVs, heat pumps, and batteries are accelerating adoptionHow China is scaling faster than the rest of the worldWhere the U.S. stands—and what it’s getting wrongWhat’s coming next (including the impact of industrial heat pumps)This isn’t a future scenario.
The technology is already here.
Costs are already coming down.
And the transition is already underway.
The real question is—are you keeping up?
🎧 Listen now and rethink how you see the energy transition.
👉 Learn more / get the book: https://electrostate.com