Scott Morrison and Anthony Albanese are caught between a global shift towards more serious climate action and pro-coal members of their respective parties. Today, Karen Middleton on how Australia’s political leaders are grappling with climate policy.

Guest: Chief political correspondent for The Saturday Paper Karen Middleton.

Background reading: How Australia’s leaders are preparing for climate change in The Saturday Paper

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