“Joy is something that requires work and commitment. It doesn’t just fall on you like rain.” So says Francesco Risso, the creative director at Italian fashion house Marni, where he has been in post since 2016. For this episode, guest host Simon Chilvers speaks with Francesco and Carlos Nazario, the stylist with whom Risso works, about how they came to work together, and what inspires them.

Founded in 1994 by Consuelo Castiglioni, Marni built a devoted following for its intellectual and artistically-minded approach to clothes. When Castiglioni stepped down in 2016, Risso was appointed as creative director, continuing the brand’s legacy of cerebral design but with a renewed focus on beauty and craft. 

Before working for Marni, the Sardinian-born, Central Saint Martins-educated  Risso spent time working for Prada, Blumarine and Alessandro Dell’Acqua.

Carlos Nazario is a New York-based stylist who was global fashion director of i-D magazine and former assistant of Joe McKenna, whose previous clients include Calvin Klein, Nike and Proenza Schouler, before being appointed style director at large for Harper’s Bazaar.