In this 'Commission Conversation' Geoff Barton, Chair of the Commission on the Future of Oracy Education in England, talks to Bill Lucas about multi-modal assessment, the learner profile and the potential of assessment through talk.   

Bill Lucas is Professor of Learning at the University of Winchester and Director of the Centre for Real-World Learning (CRL). Bill is co-founder of Rethinking Assessment, a movement arguing for a major overhaul of the assessment system in England.