The Commons, hosted by Dr. Brian Phillips, contemplates the lives and times of people worth imitating, and the ideas they offer us. 

In this episode, Brian chats with our man Matt Bianco about which student is more complete: the jock or the nerd. Discussion centers on the role of music, gymnastics, and play in a classical education, with a hearty helping of Plato along the way. 

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