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I spoke with the writer and technological theorist L.M. Sacasas about his work, grounding your perception of digital technology in philosophy, and moving towards a more coherent understanding of what the Internet is. Subscribe to his Substack here.
Theme: Computer Love by Kraftwerk
Years ago
— [Nothing But] Flowers, The Talking Heads
Please excuse the static!
This is an interview with the anarcho-primitivist John Zerzan.
What to say about John. He’s a really nice guy. He’s anti-civilization, but not an accelerationist (as far as I know). He’s an icon. There’s also a chance you don’t know who he is.
John Zerzan was one of the first philosophers I ever read. I’ve been a fan of his work since I was very young. I remember a long, long time ago, it must have been the mid-2000s, anarcho-primitivism was having a real moment online. I was old enough to grok it, young enough to still be enchanted by it. As I’ve grown older, there’s lots about his work that I can’t totally get behind or relate to (for example, one thing I’m learning about my politics, whatever they are, is that I don’t believe you can eliminate hierarchy), but I still think it’s well worth checking out. His commentary on symbolic thought, time, and computers are both especially interesting and prescient.
You can read more of his work here. I also highly, highly recommend his two appearances on one of my favorite podcasts, Hermitix, The Death of Civilization, and Time and Primitivism.
One of my favorite TikTokers, Rayne Fisher-Quann, joined me to talk about TikTok, cancel culture, the futility of the culture wars, how people talk about casual sex, and a shared favorite topic, the Internet.
You can find Rayne’s reading recs, advice column, and internet culture observations here (and you can follow her on TikTok here).
Theme: You’re Standing On My Neck by Splendora
This was a wide-ranging conversation.
We talked about mIRC WWE roleplays, the impossibility of creating a genealogy of bodybuilding forums, how trolling evolved from Usenet to Twitter, the implicit similarities between Aimee Terese and Zyzz, why the digital invites body modification, male-to-male transsexuals, and the lasting impact of what the New York Times’ once dubbed “the male fitness internet.”
Read Oliver’s EXCELLENT reporting here:
The Unheard History of Bodybuilding Forums
Steroid Solidarity
Muscle, Smoke, Mirrors
The Life of a Jacked Guy in 2019
How Selfies and Social Media Shaped Modern Bodybuilding
What Could Have Triggered Elliot Rodger?
Books referenced:
Muscle, Smoke, and Mirrors by Randy Roach
Muscle: Confessions of an Unlikely Bodybuilder by Sam Fussell
Theme: I Should Have Walked Away by KAAZE
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