What happens when a global brand famous for saving the planet from itself decides to challenge the very DNA of corporate leadership?

In this first episode of The Conscious Capitalists’ Summer Series, hosts Timothy Henry and Kate Adams speak with Charles Conn, Chair of Patagonia, co-founder of Monograph, and former senior partner at McKinsey. Together, they explore how conscious enterprises can thrive in a world of radical uncertainty — from geopolitical shocks to disruptive technologies — by rethinking the way leadership works.

Charles takes us inside Patagonia’s approach to leading with purpose, agility, and trust, showing why the old top-down, control-heavy playbook is no longer fit for a future that demands resilience, innovation, and courage. From breaking hierarchies to empowering frontline teams, he reveals how to build organizations that adapt fast and stay true to their values.

This is more than a conversation about business — it’s a blueprint for a new era of leadership. Charles shares stories and strategies from the boardroom to the trailhead, illustrating how authenticity, curiosity, and conscious capitalism can create lasting impact in both business and society.

Listeners will gain insights into:

• Why traditional leadership models are collapsing — and what’s replacing them
• Patagonia’s trust-first culture and how it fuels innovation
• How conscious capitalism drives agility in uncertain markets
• The role of curiosity in making better decisions
• Practical ways to shift from hierarchical control to empowered teams
• Balancing purpose with performance without losing momentum
• How leaders can thrive — not just survive — in disruptive times

Whether you’re a CEO looking to future-proof your organization, a startup founder hungry for agile growth, or a leader seeking to balance profit with purpose, this episode offers a rare inside look at what it takes to lead consciously in the face of unprecedented change.

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Time Stamps

02:02 Introduction to Summer Series
00:45 Understanding Radical Uncertainty
01:40 Introduction of Kate Adams
02:34 The Future of Conscious Enterprise
03:57 Introduction of Charles Conn
06:17 Rethinking Business Strategy
09:17 Organizational and Leadership Changes
13:19 Patagonia's Approach to Purpose and Strategy
21:08 Leading Through Disruption
27:57 Decision Making and Purpose
34:48 Leadership for the Future

In this deeply reflective conversation, Raj Sisodia and Nilima Bhat explore why even the smartest, most successful leaders can suddenly find themselves stuck, hitting an invisible ceiling that strategy, coaching, or performance optimization alone cannot break. Drawing from their new book, Healing Leaders: A Manual for Life and Leadership Recovery, they make the case that leadership development without inner healing is fundamentally incomplete.

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Together, we unpack how unhealed psychological wounds quietly shape decision making, relationships, and organizational culture, often sabotaging leaders at the very height of their success. Raj and Nilima introduce their seven step framework for healing and integration, Know, Love, Be, Choose, Express, Complete, and Heal, guiding leaders on a journey that begins with self awareness and ends with genuine transformation.

The conversation moves into the distinction between post traumatic stress and post traumatic growth, and why real growth requires what they describe as going down to the basement of consciousness before rising to the next level of leadership. Nilima shares insights on integrating masculine and feminine energies, elder and child wisdom, and embracing the role of the wise fool of tough love, a leader grounded in both compassion and truth.

At its core, this episode challenges the idea that leadership is only about external results. As Raj puts it, you cannot have a healing organization with a leader who is not healed. The more leaders do their own inner work, the more they create cultures that foster trust, psychological safety, and collective flourishing.

This is not just a conversation about business or leadership performance. It is about what it truly means to lead in a way that heals organizations, communities, and ultimately the world.

About the Guest

Nilima Bhat is a visionary speaker, leadership coach, and co author of Shakti Leadership, and a former Distinguished Professor in Gender and Conscious Leadership at Tecnológico de Monterrey.

Purchase the book “Healing Leaders: 7 Steps to Recovery of Self” https://a.co/d/02VWA9G2 

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- Timothy & Raj

Chapters:

• 0:00 - Introduction & Welcome
• 1:30 - Why This Book? The Journey to Healing Leaders
• 4:57 - From Shakti Leadership to Therapy for Leaders
• 6:35 - The Seven Steps of Healing Overview
• 10:55 - Coaching vs. Psychological Healing
• 15:55 - When Smart Leaders Get Stuck
• 20:02 - Step 1: Know Yourself - Unpacking Identity
• 24:21 - Step 2: Love Yourself - Breaking Self-Destructive Patterns
• 26:53 - Step 3: Be Yourself - Cultivating Presence
• 29:21 - Step 4: Choose Yourself - From Victim to Hero
• 31:09 - Step 5: Express Yourself - Finding Your Purpose
• 36:47 - Step 6: Complete Yourself - The Wise Fool of Tough Love
• 40:19 - Step 7: Heal Yourself - Addressing Trauma & Wounds
• 47:59 - Healing Leaders Creates Healing Organizations
• 50:05 - Final Reflections & Closing Thoughts

Dusan shares the remarkable origin story of Tony’s Chocolonely, which began nearly twenty years ago with a Dutch journalist’s investigation into child labor and exploitation in the cocoa industry, and grew into a global chocolate brand with a singular goal: to make chocolate 100 percent exploitation free. We explore how that founding purpose has been protected through a unique mission-lock governance structure, designed to ensure the company’s values survive scale, leadership changes, and even future ownership transitions.

The conversation dives deep into Tony’s Open Chain, an open-source supply chain platform that now includes more than twenty mission allies, including brands like MrBeast’s Feastables, all working collaboratively to transform the cocoa industry from the inside out. Dusan explains how paying a Living Income Reference Price—often more than 80 percent above market rates—creates real economic stability for farmers, and why full traceability from farm to bar is essential for accountability, not marketing.

We also unpack the current cocoa crisis, including why prices have recently tripled, what that means for farmers on the ground, and why higher prices alone don’t solve systemic exploitation. Along the way, Dusan reflects on his own leadership journey, transitioning from a senior role at Anheuser-Busch InBev to leading a purpose-driven organization that measures success not just by growth, but by impact.

Together, we explore what it means to scale with soul—expanding into mass retailers like Walmart and Costco while maintaining premium quality, ethical standards, and radical transparency. This is a grounded and honest conversation about conscious leadership, systems change, and the courage required to challenge “business as usual” in pursuit of a more just and sustainable economy.

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- Timothy & Raj

In this episode, we welcome Nicholas Janni, author of Leader as Healer, the Business Book of the Year in 2023, for a thoughtful conversation on reimagining leadership in an age of uncertainty and disruption.

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Nicholas challenges the dominant leader as the executor model and shares why relying solely on the thinking mind is no longer sufficient, and may even be harmful, for modern leadership. Drawing on his work with senior leaders around the world, he introduces a new framework rooted in embodied presence, emotional intelligence, and whole self awareness.

The conversation explores the performance paradox of leadership and how slowing down, embracing vulnerability, and tuning into the body can actually strengthen decision making, resilience, and critical thinking. Nicholas also reflects on what it means to lead amid collapse and chaos, suggesting that deep presence, rather than control, is the capacity leaders most need today.

Together, we examine how traditional notions of professionalism that exclude emotion undermine trust and team performance, and why personal healing work is closely connected to the ability to lead transformational change. Nicholas also shares practical and accessible embodiment practices leaders can use to stay grounded, connected, and effective throughout demanding workdays.

Join us for an honest and engaging conversation that invites leaders to move beyond constant doing and reconnect with being, offering a timely and deeply human vision of leadership for the world we are navigating.

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This show is presented by Conscious Capitalism, Inc. (https://www.consciouscapitalism.org/) and is produced by Rainbow Creative (https://www.rainbowcreative.co/) with Matthew “MoJo” Jones as Executive Producer, and Nathan Wheatley as Editor.

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In this episode, Timothy Henry and Raj Sisodia welcome Ashli Blumenfeld, Co-President of Standard Meat Company and a board member of Conscious Capitalism.

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Ashli shares her remarkable journey from the fashion world in New York City to helping lead a fourth-generation family business in Texas. She reflects on how she and her brother have grown Standard Meat by prioritizing people, culture, and long-term stewardship, while honoring the legacy built by generations before them.

The conversation explores what it means to lead with self-awareness, overcome imposter syndrome, and embrace vulnerability as a source of strength in leadership. Ashli also discusses the influence of strong female leaders in her family and how their example shaped her approach to business and life.

Timothy, Raj, and Ashli dive into conscious business practices within the meat industry, including sustainability, responsible sourcing, and the evolving future of protein. Ashli also shares personal insights—from favorite books and morning routines to advice for the next generation of leaders navigating purpose-driven careers.

Join us for an honest and insightful conversation that highlights conscious leadership in action and offers a fresh perspective on building values-led businesses in even the most complex industries.

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Timestamps:

00:00 – The Ugly Duckling Metaphor & Finding Your Swan People
00:35 – Welcome & Introductions
01:45 – The History of Standard Meat Company
06:21 – Relationship-Driven Business
08:37 – People-First Culture
14:48 – Defining Company Culture
19:20 – Self-Awareness & Leadership Journey
24:50 – The Swan Realization
28:25 – Parenting & Leadership Parallels
33:35 – Female Leadership in a Male-Dominated Industry
38:44 – Advice for the Next Generation
43:58 – Conscious Business in the Meat Industry
52:06 – Rapid Fire: Routines, Books, and Inspiration
1:00:00 – Closing Thoughts & Call to Action

In this compelling episode of 'The Conscious Capitalists,' hosts Timothy Henry and Raj Soia engage in an inspiring conversation with Miren Oca, the founder of Ocaquatics Swim School. Miren shares her unconventional path to becoming a successful entrepreneur, revealing how she pivoted from a career in medicine to building a thriving swim school business out of necessity. With five locations and 6,500 swim lessons per week, Ocaquatics has flourished by prioritizing leadership development, strong company culture, and employee empowerment. Miren delves into the transformative impact of broad-based employee ownership through an Employee Ownership Trust (EOT) and discusses practical strategies for creating positive ripples of impact in business. Tune in for an enlightening discussion on how conscious leadership, culture-building, and people-first practices can drive both social and business success.

00:00 The Journey Begins: Med School or Pool?
00:47 Welcome to The Conscious Capitalists
01:30 Introducing Miren Oca: A Leader in Conscious Leadership
03:26 From Immigrant Roots to Business Owner
05:57 Building a Swim School Empire
10:33 The Importance of Culture and Leadership Development
19:22 Employee Ownership: A New Chapter
24:50 Introduction to Employee Ownership Trust
26:13 Emergency Financial Support for Employees
28:54 Impact of Employee Ownership on Business Performance
30:23 Encouraging Employee Ideas and Feedback
33:57 Florida for Good and Conscious Capitalism
36:00 Navigating ESG and DEI in Business
40:33 Advice for Small Business Owners
41:59 Personal Insights and Recommendations
48:54 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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This show is presented by Conscious Capitalism, Inc. (https://www.consciouscapitalism.org/) and is produced by Rainbow Creative (https://www.rainbowcreative.co/) with Matthew Jones as Executive Producer, Nicholas Peters as Producer, and Nathan Wheatley as Editor.

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In this episode, Timothy Henry and Raj Sisodia welcome Stewart Kohl, Co-CEO of The Riverside Company, a global private equity firm known for its long-term, values-centered approach to investing.

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Drawing on decades of experience, Stewart shares his powerful perspective on integrating values with valuation in the world of private equity, and what it takes to invest wisely during times of radical uncertainty. Stewart reflects on the discipline required to stay true to purpose while navigating shifting markets and evolving stakeholder expectations.

The conversation also explores the practical realities of responsible investing, including the growing importance of employee ownership and stewardship. Stewart offers candid insights into what it means to lead consciously, build resilient businesses, and champion sustainable growth across diverse industries. Join us for a thought-provoking discussion that highlights the future of capitalism—and reveals why values-driven leadership remains one of the most powerful levers for long-term impact.

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This show is presented by Conscious Capitalism, Inc. (https://www.consciouscapitalism.org/) and is produced by Rainbow Creative (https://www.rainbowcreative.co/) with Matthew "MoJo" Jones as Executive Producer, Nicholas Peters as Producer, and Nathan Wheatley as Editor.

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- Timothy & Raj

Chapters

• 00:00 Introduction and Responsibilities of an Investor
• 03:19 Values and Valuation in Private Equity
• 06:46 The Importance of Company Culture
• 08:34 Navigating Radical Uncertainty
• 10:31 The Role of Industry Expertise
• 20:39 Responsible Investing and Stewardship
• 30:04 The Importance of Conscious Growth
• 30:25 Strategies for Healthy Business Growth
• 30:45 Organic and Inorganic Growth Tactics
• 31:53 The Risks and Rewards of M&A
• 33:59 Employee Ownership and Its Impact
• 36:26 Creating an Ownership Culture
• 38:58 Empathy in Leadership
• 46:28 The Role of Co-CEOs in Business
• 51:47 Rapid Fire Round
• 56:13 Final Thoughts on Conscious Capitalism

In this episode, Timothy Henry and Raj Sisodia invite David Gardner, the visionary co-founder of The Motley Fool and a passionate advocate for conscious investing, to the pod.

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Hear the inspiring story behind David’s lifelong commitment to aligning investments with purpose. From co-founding The Motley Fool to championing a new paradigm of “rational optimism,” David shares how values-driven decision making can fuel long term success. He explores the essential role of leadership and culture in building enduring businesses and offers candid reflections on navigating the pressures of a rapidly evolving marketplace.

David also discusses the transformative power of intellectual curiosity; revealing how games, play, and strategic thinking have shaped his approach to business, investing, and life. The conversation delves deep into the philosophies and practices that have defined David’s career, highlighting the broader implications for conscious investors in today’s complex world. Join us for a thought-provoking discussion that illuminates the intersection of purpose, leadership, and long term value, and offers valuable insights for anyone seeking to invest with intention and impact.

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This show is presented by Conscious Capitalism, Inc. (https://www.consciouscapitalism.org/) and is produced by Rainbow Creative (https://www.rainbowcreative.co/) with Matthew "MoJo" Jones as Executive Producer, Nicholas Peters as Producer, and Nathan Wheatley as Editor.

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- Timothy & Raj

• 00:00 Introduction to Conscious Investing and the The Conscious Capitalists Podcast
• 03:08 The Rational Optimist: Embracing Optimism in Investing
• 07:54 The Rule Breaker Framework: Habits for Long-Term Prosperity
• 11:02 The Importance of Leadership and Culture in Investing
• 15:56 The True Meaning of Investing
• 22:32 The Intangible Value of Leadership and Brand
• 24:21 The Importance of Conscious Capitalism
• 24:58 Case Study: Henny Penny's Resilience During COVID-19
• 30:09 The Future of Business Amid Radical Uncertainty
• 33:14 Investing with a Vision for the Future
• 35:06 The Role of Intellectual Curiosity and Games
• 39:29 Rapid Fire Round and Closing Remarks

In this episode, Timothy Henry and Kate Adam welcome Valerie Capers Workman, Chief Human Resources Officer at Empower Pharmacy and author of the bestselling book Quantum Progression

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Valerie brings a wealth of experience from her leadership roles at some of the world’s most innovative and disruptive companies, including Tesla. She shares powerful insights into how AI is transforming the workplace - and what leaders must do to build agile, ethical, and future-ready organizations.

From developing AI fluency and mastering prompt engineering to managing multi-generational teams and preserving human intuition in an age of automation, Valerie explores the evolving role of people in a technology-driven world. She also highlights the enduring importance of critical thinking, empathy, and ethical leadership as the cornerstones of long-term success. Join us for a compelling conversation that examines how leaders can navigate disruption, harness innovation responsibly, and empower their teams to thrive in the era of AI.

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This show is presented by Conscious Capitalism, Inc. (https://www.consciouscapitalism.org/) and is produced by Rainbow Creative (https://www.rainbowcreative.co/) with Matthew "MoJo" Jones as Executive Producer, Nicholas Peters as Producer, and Nathan Wheatley as Editor.

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- Timothy & Raj

Chapters

• 00:00 Introduction to AI and the Conscious Capitalism Podcast
• 03:08 AI's Impact on Business and Workforce
• 05:53 The Importance of People-Centric Leadership
• 07:32 Navigating Fast-Paced, Innovative Environments
• 10:41 Future-Ready Workforce and AI Fluency
• 16:44 Leadership and Emotional Intelligence
• 19:04 Ethical Guardrails and Governance in AI
• 27:07 The Gig Economy and Workforce Dynamics
• 32:55 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Check out an episode from earlier this year with Timothy Henry, CEO of Conscious Capitalism.

Since 2008, Timothy Henry has played a pivotal role in reshaping how businesses view purpose and stakeholders.

Now transitioning into the role of CEO, Timothy unveils his ambitious vision for the movement’s future. He emphasizes the importance of a global "How-To Academy" to equip leaders with actionable tools, robust strategic partnerships to amplify their reach, and stronger chapters to localize and personalize the movement’s principles. 

Through heartfelt storytelling and practical insights, this episode captures the essence of what conscious capitalism is all about: creating businesses that are not only profitable but also make the world a better place.

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Time Stamps

00:00 Introduction and Welcome
01:07 The Journey of Conscious Capitalism
01:46 Reflections on Progress and Challenges
03:02 The Impact of Conscious Capitalism
05:19 Leadership Transition: Timothy as CEO
05:56 Vision for the Future
09:23 Elevating Conscious Capitalism
22:34 Building the Conscious Capitalism Academy
24:51 Strategic Partnerships and Chapters
45:27 Call to Action and Conclusion