In this episode of When We Disagree, political philosopher Daniel Layman dives into his book-length debate with anarchist Michael Huemer, tackling one of the most fundamental political questions imaginable: is government ever legitimate? Layman defends the messy, imperfect middle ground — what we call “the slog” — arguing that while governments can be unjust, they’re what make equal rights possible. We explore why nuance is hard to defend in a world that loves slogans and how to emphasize grey areas against radical positions. 

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