The Container

We all know social media is broken. Jordan Myska Allen and the team at UpTrust are trying to fix that.

How? They’re integrating insights from the relational arts as well as enormous, civilization-wide considerations of how trust works and how people keep an open mind.

It might be the first-ever high-consciousness social media platform. And you can become a part of it by joining the waitlist.

📚 Sign up for the waitlist here! (http://uptrusting.com/join-waitlist)

**Note** we will return to the second part of our mega-discussion with Rob Kancler in two weeks. We needed to rush this episode out so people could get on the waitlist!

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Rob Kancler guides men to become pioneers of their sexual futures. His work opens our eyes to the million myths and false narratives that bind our energies and block the full expression of who we are and what we could become.

Plus, he’s a great conversationalist.

In this long episode, we talk about all kinds of topics related to sexuality, the body, and reaching mystical states through union. Our next episode will bring you more Rob Kancler, so if you love this, just wait for your second serving!

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Marina Weiler is an Assistant Professor of Psychiatry and Neurobehavioral Sciences in the UVA Division of Perceptual Studies.

That’s one way to say that she scientifically studies out-of-body experiences (or OBEs). This research is deeply confronting to a purely materialist view of the world, and it helps us understand better how consciousness works.

Anyone who has circled for an extended period of time has likely induced an OBE (or something like it) in the practice. Even if you haven’t, you’ve probably had some kind of experience that seriously undermines the idea that consciousness is simply something made by the brain.

We brought on Marina Weiler to teach us about her work and then, in typical Container fashion, we give her an opportunity to go into her full view of the universe.

📚 Check out the Division of Perceptual Studies at UVA! (https://med.virginia.edu/perceptual-studies/)

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Jordan Myska Allen. He pioneered many fundamental practices in the art of circling and authentic relating—and he coined an entirely new paradigm to file this work under: Relatefulness.

And his organization (the Relateful Company in Austin, Texas) is the leading center of the relational arts in the United States. 

We talk about this thing of ours, with Jordan pushing us to go beyond the axioms and maxims that guide the practice for most of us. Instead, he pursues a radical interrogation of everything, willing to circle even the sacred cows of “Welcome Everything” and… as we will see right away… what dropping in could even mean.

Whether you are new to circling or have been wading in the deep waters of transformational connection for decades, this conversation will connect you to the spiritual core of the practice.

📚 Check out the Relateful Company here! (www.relateful.com)

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In our final episode of the Advent season, we welcome the luminous Scout Rainer Wiley—mystical writer, ritual artist, and contemplative spirit. Known for her ability to weave esoteric wisdom with grounded, real-world insights, Scout takes us on a journey through her reflections on writing, living a sacred life, the importance of ritual, and how natural disasters (even a hurricane) can serve as an emergent ritual ordeal for an entire community.

📚 Check out Scout's website here! (https://scoutrainerwiley.com/)
📰 Read her Substack here! (https://hyperphantasiia.substack.com/)

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Alicen Grey is many things—a writer, a musician, a mystic, and a magician. She comes on The Container to talk about Jesus Christ and the secret of free energy. We also cover why opening ourselves up to the magic and power of Christianity can be so difficult given our personal histories and previous encounters with the religion.

This very special episode comes just in time for Advent season. We are so grateful to be able to share it with you in this time of year. Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas! 

🔗 Find Alicen Grey at: https://www.alicen-grey.com/
🔗 Find her music here: https://whenhumanshadwings.com/discography/ 

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Mahaya Alina Sikorsky is a circling facilitator and life coach who works with The Connection Institute. She shares how this practice changed her life and how it can catalyze a profound shift in the world by developing New Earth Consciousness.

🔗 Mahaya at The Connection Institute

Check out Episodes 33 and 34 for interviews with Melody Indigo Markel who also works at The Connection Institute!

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Mark Walsh is a lot of things, but if you know his name, it’s likely because of his work with embodiment. And he blends life coaching with weight training to give young men guidance.

We brought him on to talk about the issues facing men and how weightlifting can help.

And along the way… we talk about politics. A first for The Container—and edgy territory for us to get into.

🔗 Find him online at: https://www.embodimentunlimited.com
🔗 Find his YouTube Channel at: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfgLCTiNzVpIeL_j7Icxh8w
🔗 Find his Podcast at: https://embodimentunlimited.com/podcast/
🔗 Find his Feral Philosophy show at: https://www.youtube.com/@FeralPhilosophy_mw

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Peter Munthe-Kaas is a master of the Circling Europe tradition. He hops into the Container to discuss his blend of Circling, Tai Chi, and Daoism.

🔗Find him online at: www.munthe-kaas.dk


This ties into our ongoing investigation in the Dao and Circling. You can see more of that in Episode 38: The Tao Te Ching and Circling and Episode 40: Who Is the Master in the Tao Te Ching?

And, of course, Patreon members get all the episodes of our series The Way That Can Be Told, which goes chapter-by-chapter through the Tao Te Ching, looking at it as a guide to circling.

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We get hands-on, practical tools from a master of the relational arts—Michael Porcelli.

He is the creator of MetaRelating, a powerful system blending Authentic Relating with broader communication and psychological frameworks.

In this episode, Porcelli introduces a ton of helpful concepts, including the "We-Creature," a dynamic third entity between two people that needs attention and care.

🔗 For more on MetaRelating, visit: MetaRelating.com
🔗 Check out Porcelli's free events and webinars here: MetaRelating Linktree

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