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ABOUT THIS EPISODE
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Every AI agent your organisation deploys carries a values rulebook that somebody wrote. Usually a handful of researchers, at a Bay Area frontier lab. That is not a governance decision your board consciously made — it is the default your vendors chose for you.
Dr Craig A. Kaplan — PhD with Nobel laureate Herbert A. Simon, founder of Predict Wall Street, and designer of the Democratic AI architecture free at SuperIntelligence.com — spent the last five years arguing this is the biggest architecture problem in AI safety, and that the industry is solving it the wrong way.
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CHAPTERS
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00:00 Cold open — the AI that destroyed its operator
00:54 What this episode is about
02:20 Working with Herbert Simon at Carnegie Mellon
04:50 When your phone hides your emails from you
11:29 Anthropic's Constitutional AI — a benign autocracy?
16:36 Guardrails, Project Glasswing, community-level safety
27:21 The hedge fund that beat Wall Street with the crowd
34:15 Wisdom AND madness of crowds — the AI amplifier
41:57 Democratic AI — the architecture nobody is building
48:39 When your AI meets my AI — the arbitration problem
52:32 HAL 9000 is the warning, not the prediction
1:00:52 The US Air Force AI that destroyed its operator
1:06:07 The 1956 AI that fooled Bertrand Russell
1:11:35 Bounded rationality vs the AGI marketing problem
1:15:35 Craig Kaplan's predictive judgement
1:19:49 The Bottom Line — for CISOs, boards, procurement
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READ + WATCH
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Full written analysis on Substack: thecontrollayer.arkava.ai/kaplan-values-podcast
YouTube video version: youtu.be/8F9sr21ELpg
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SOURCES CITED IN THIS EPISODE
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- Anthropic Constitutional AI — anthropic.com
- Predict Wall Street / iQ Company published figures — iqco.com/about
- Democratic AI architecture (Kaplan) — superintelligence.com
- Herbert Simon and Allen Newell, Logic Theorist (1956) and Human Problem Solving (1972)
- Herbert Simon: Nobel Memorial Prize in Economics (1978), Turing Award (1975) — the only person in history to hold both
- Geoffrey Hinton public statements on p(doom)
- US Air Force AI simulation account (Col. Tucker Hamilton, Royal Aeronautical Society, May 2023, later clarified by USAF as a thought experiment)
- Isaac Asimov, Three Laws of Robotics (1942)
- Meta "personal superintelligence" strategy (Zuckerberg, July 2025)
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GUEST
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Dr Craig A. Kaplan
Founder, iQ Company (est. 1993)
Founder, Predict Wall Street (est. 2005)
Managing Director, SuperIntelligence.com and iQ Studios
PhD, Carnegie Mellon University — supervised by Herbert A. Simon
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HOST
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Amer Altaf
Founder & CEO, Arkava
Managing Editor, The Control Layer
arkava.ai · Trusted Intelligence, Tangible Impact
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