This week, Michael and Megan tackle the difficult topic of church control. 

They discuss how much—if any—control churches should be allowed to have over members and how to safeguard against any misuse of power by leaders.

Christian psychologist Kylie Walls then joins the show for a sobering discussion on spiritual abuse, before our hosts review the hit podcast Sons of Patriarchy, which deals with the hyper-conservative ministry of Douglas Wilson.

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