The Conversation, Cannabis & Christianity podcast

Angie Roullier is a medical marijuana patient in the State of Michigan and she is the author of, Pot for the People, in stores now and, The Blue Print for Bud Tenders, which releases in February of 2026.

Thoughts arrive like butterflies, but he don't know, so he pushes them away. - Pearl Jam's, Even Flow

Born and raised in Jamaica and now residing in Detroit, Michigan, Leon Small has developed a 100% organic pesticide, ALLPERPLUS, which is available in the United States, Trinidad & Tobago, South Africa and Jamaica.

He is also the author of, Organic Living From a Bald Headed Rasta. Leon and Miguel talk about ALLPERPLUS, Leon's book and also Leon's belief system growing up in Jamaica and how his move to the United States surprised him in a way that he had not anticipated.

Dr. Robert Brodnick, known to many as Dr. Bob, is a chemist, entrepreneur, and founder of PhenoTerps LLC, a company specializing in product formulation, compliance, and technical services. His work spans research and development in beverage formulations,botanical terpene and flavor applications, and ISO 17025 testing laboratory design-build, and operations.

With a background in music, chemistry, andentrepreneurship, Dr. Bob has a unique perspective on the intersection of science, culture, and creativity. His recent focus includes advancing the cannabis and hemp industries through both scientific rigor and systems design, while also exploring deeper questions of coherence, intelligence, and the nature of reality.

Strength made perfect in the weakness of human beings.

Trent Hancock is the former head breeder for Creswell Oreganics and a former owner in Crater Enterprises. In 1998 he started indoor growing in Portland’s legendary cannabis community and went on to build his first commercial grow in Montana in 2008. Trent spent the next eight years in Montana consulting the largest indoor cannabis facilities in the country at the time, prior to Colorado 2014.

Realizing that large scale commercial grows had bug and mold problems that were nearly impossible to control without spraying flowering plants, he started developing a controlled air system that prevented the need for spraying. In 2014, Trent teamed up withShayney Norick and her medical cannabis company in Montana.

Gaining the space and ability to refine his air system, he utilized his Navy Seabee Dad's low voltage electronics experience to build his first control panel. This was thefirst control panel ever built that brings in high volumes of fresh air while running high altitude temperature algorithms, and no need for pesticides.

After decades of knowledge and experience in the legacy and medical marijuana arenas, he is a qualityand testing expert.  

Lee Simpson is the founder of King Harvest Wellness and kingharvest.org - A critical illness medical cannabis oil provider that focuses on no obligation patient consultation and education. King Harvest makes - flower only - 3rd party lab tested medicines for critical illness and disease eradication. Full Extract Cannabis Oil (FECO) - Rick Simpson Oil (RSO) in critical illness has allowed for organizations to take a Christ centered approach by providing sun grown medical cannabis oils “as they were created” and naturally intended by the Lord himself.

We focus on getting people “better” instead of getting people “high” - We have a Christ centered conservative and responsible approach designed to eliminate the underlying cause of the disease itself and allows for direct ministry with patients at critical times. 

The ability to change from the inside out and from the outside in.

Dr. Randall Hansen is an advocate, educator, mentor, ethicist, and thought-leader helping the world heal from past trauma. Having been on a successful wellness journey that turned into a healing journey, all Dr. Hansen wants is to help other people find TRUE healing – not simply symptom management – because true healing opens us up to finally understanding who we are and what we are meant to do and be.

He is the author of the groundbreaking book, 'Triumph Over Trauma: Psychedelic Medicines are Helping People Heal Their Trauma, Change Their Lives and Grow Their Spirituality'; and the well-received, 'HEAL! Wholistic Practices to Help Clear Your Trauma, Heal Yourself, and Live Your Best Life.' Dr. Hansen’s focus and advocacy center around true healing, healing that results in being able to live an authentic life filled with peace, joy, love.

Gary Hess is the founder and Executive Director of the Veterans Alliance for Holistic Alternatives (VAHA), CEO of Teleleaf, and Founder of, Warrior Tribe Assembly – organizations he founded to help destigmatize and provide access to medical cannabis.

Gary served in the Marine Corps for 11 years, both enlisted and as an Infantry Officer. After serving during the heaviest levels of fighting in Irag, Gary experienced the challenges of living with PTSD, traumatic brain injury, chronic pain, and pharmaceutical dependency first-hand.

He used cannabis not only to manage his conditions safely on his path to recovery, but also to catalyze and expedite Post-Traumatic Growth. He is now an advocate and activist for the use of medical cannabis in post-traumatic recovery – both for veterans and trauma survivors.