The Conversation

The Conversation

By Ben and NiNiTV & FilmTV Reviews
Download on the App Store

The Conversation episodes

  • On Time and Memory
    It's always time fuckery vs head fuckery when we head to the second chance romance well, and the fall was no different. Ben and NiNi talk Tokyo In April Is…and Be My Favourite.
    Episode transcript available here. [https://www.tumblr.com/the-conversation-pod/731991891180208128/on-time-and-memory?source=share]
    00:00-Welcome
    01:16-Intro
    03:10-Tokyo In April Is...
    11:01-TIAI: Comparisons with the manga
    14:15-TIAI: Strength of execution
    26:23-Be My Favorite
    34:00-BMF: The time travel mechanic
    44:47-BMF: Dings
    52:57-BMF: Jittirain and Gawin and Krist
    01:00:58-Outro
    1 hr 10 min
  • The ITSAY Anniversary Show, Part 2
    In part 2 of our retrospective, NiNi leads a panel talk on I Promised You The Moon, and Ben and NiNi talk Last Twilight In Phuket.
    Episode transcript available here. [https://www.tumblr.com/the-conversation-pod/731625229802258432/the-itsay-anniversary-show-part-2?source=share]
    00:00-Welcome
    01:16-Intro
    08:00-Panel introduction
    08:45-How did you come to BL and ITSAY/IPTYM?
    14:35-Expectations of IPYTM
    22:40-Narrative structure
    31:36-Teh and Oh's characters
    37:57-Presence or absence of queer community
    42:33-Relationship conflicts
    47:05-That snake Jai
    01:01:38-The ending and character development
    01:15:23-Favorite scenes
    01:23:51-Outro
    1 hr 32 min
  • The ITSAY Anniversary Show, Part 1
    October marks the 3rd anniversary of the show that rewired the BL industry, and it felt like the right time for a retrospective. In part 1 Ben leads a panel talk on I Told Sunset About You.
    Episode transcript available here. [https://www.tumblr.com/the-conversation-pod/731368755449495552/the-itsay-anniversary-show-part-1?source=share]
    00:00-Intro
    04:16-How did you come to ITSAY?
    11:31-Phuket as a setting
    19:00-Style and genre
    29:40-Characters
    36:18-Teh and Oh's dynamic
    50:07-Why do you care so much about ITSAY?
    01:04:08-Outro
    1 hr 18 min
  • Summer Lagniappe
    In our Summer Lagniappe, Ben, NiNi and a special guest discuss the ups and downs of the spring season and speculate on what we'll be talking about come the fall.
    Episode transcript available here. [https://www.tumblr.com/the-conversation-pod/724378470843645952/summer-2023-langiappe?source=share]
    00:00-Welcome
    01:15-Intro
    03:14-Talk Nice to Us
    13:11-Catch Up Corner
    13:59-My Only 12%
    22:52-Roommates of Poongduck 304
    26:14-She Loves to Cook, and She Loves to Eat
    30:09-The Shipper
    59:46-Next Watches
    01:02:33-Me, My Husband, and My Husband's Boyfriend
    01:15:53-Spring Roundup
    01:39:34-Girl, You Tried
    01:46:56-Looking Ahead
    1 hr 59 min
  • Adult Swim, Vol. 1
    We haven't written this much meta since the Bad Buddy era! Thailand put out two brain-melters at the very end of the season and we added an entire episode just for them. Ben and NiNi talk Step By Step and La Pluie.
    Episode transcript available here. [https://www.tumblr.com/the-conversation-pod/724015787647680512/adult-swim?source=share]
    00:00-Welcome
    01:15-Intro
    02:13-Step by Step 
    04:40-A Moment of Simping
    08:40-Big Themes
    16:52-The Romance
    25:45-Story Execution
    50:25-Where are we on Tee Bundit?
    53:10-La Pluie
    57:50-The Soulmate Myth
    01:08:22-Lomfon is Rude!
    01:13:30-Tai Also Deserves Some Smoke
    01:18:26-Tai's Dad Read as Queer 
    01:20:48-The Romance
    01:32:06-Male Anger
    01:35:50-Nara
    01:40:47-The Side Characters
    01:44:02-Sequel Potential
    01:46:02-Outro
    1 hr 54 min
  • Comfort Food

    Japan is leaning into its cosy heartwarming bona fides and we're (mostly) liking what it's giving. Ben and NiNi talk J-BLs Jack O'Frost, Our Dining Table and Naked Dining.

    Episode transcript available here.
    00:00-Welcome
    01:15-Intro
    02:01-Jack O'Frost
    23:40-Our Dining Table (Bokura no Shokutaku)
    48:00-Naked Dining (Zenra Meshi)
    01:02:50-The J-BL Victory Lap and the Food BL Flop


    1 hr 10 min
  • Work, Bitch
    Office romance is shaping up to be the trend of the year, with more shows this spring vying to put their stamp on the subgenre. In this episode, we pit former collaborators Cheewin Thanamin and New Siwaj against each other with their pretty much opposite takes on workplace romance. Ben and NiNi talk Bed Friend and A Boss and A Babe.
    TW: Bed Friend discussion 2:47-41:01 including discussions of physical, emotional and sexual abuse.
    Episode transcript available here. [https://www.tumblr.com/the-conversation-pod/723381383918157824/work-bitch?source=share]
    00:00-Welcome
    01:15-Intro and Trigger Heads Up
    02:47-Bed Friend
    41:01-A Boss and A Babe
    01:25:16-Cheewin vs New
    1 hr 34 min
  • Welcome Back My Boyfriend!
    2 hours, 8 specials...it's the Our Skyy 2 episode! Ben and NiNi break down and rank all 8 stories from worst to first, and talk a little bit about why sequels matter.
    Episode transcript available here. [https://www.tumblr.com/the-conversation-pod/723109825220919296/welcome-back-my-boyfriend?source=share]
    00:00-Welcome
    01:15-Intro
    06:07-Vice Versa
    14:23-Star In My Mind
    19:20-Never Let Me Go
    28:00-A Boss and A Babe
    36:45-The Eclipse
    49:50-My School President
    01:00:24-Bad Buddy x A Tale of Thousand Stars
    01:59:13-Overall Score for Our Skyy 2
    2 hr 5 min
  • The Eighth Sense Episode
    Ben and NiNi talk The Eighth Sense, and Ben explains the whole Hedwig thing.
    Episode transcript available here. [https://www.tumblr.com/the-conversation-pod/722747117899251712/summer-2023-ep-2-the-eighth-sense?source=share]
    00:00-Welcome
    01:04-The Eighth Sense
    18:00-The Relationships Between the Seniors and Juniors
    27:45-The Hedwig Incident
    36:32-Ae Ri
    42:50-Ji Hyun and Jae Won
    50:38-Joon Pyo and Boss Lady
    56:28-Let's Talk About The Kissing (And Episode 6)
    01:06:21-The Party Scene and Forgiveness
    01:17:14-On a Possible Second Season
    01:24:10-Checking in Two Months Later
    1 hr 32 min

About The Conversation

From the publisher's feed

The Conversation is a podcast all about Asian BL/GL/QL and other queer media, coming at you from a film crit perspective. We swan in when we can to shoot the shit on faves, flops and trends, artistry and industry nerdery, and also crack and simping, because we contain multitudes.