On this episode best selling author, entrepreneur, speaker, sales & marketing expert, Chris Smith joins me to talk about the 2nd edition of his world famous marketing book, The Conversion Code.

This book was the bible for my consumer direct marketing and I can tell you that it was gold!

Make sure to listen to the full episode for your chance to win a Free copy. I am already three chapters in and I can tell you will want this book!

Quick shout out to my podcast partners VicFin, Lender Price, and Next Level Loan Officers. Thank you for being a part of the REAL Podcast fam.