Thrive & Decide

The Courage to Choose Yourself When Marriage No Longer Serves You


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What happens when your marriage looks perfect from the outside but feels empty on the inside? Katie Fleming bravely shares her journey of walking away from a marriage that wasn't terrible—just terribly unfulfilling.

Katie married young at 21, seeking stability after her father left during childhood. Despite creating a picture-perfect family with three children, something vital was missing: genuine connection. "He wasn't a bad dad, he just was there," Katie explains, capturing the quiet devastation of living alongside someone who doesn't truly see you. "We don't hang out, we don't talk, we don't fight, but we don't talk."

The conversation explores the unique challenges of ending a marriage without dramatic betrayal or abuse—facing judgment from friends who couldn't understand why anyone would leave such a "good guy." Katie's candid reflection offers validation to anyone questioning whether mere coexistence is enough for a fulfilling life.

The story transforms when Katie describes finding true partnership with Ed, now her husband. Their relationship began as genuine friendship before blossoming into something more meaningful. Together they've navigated the complex terrain of blending five children, managing relationships with ex-partners, and creating a unified family during COVID lockdowns.

Katie's wisdom shines through when discussing co-parenting dynamics and healing after divorce. She emphasizes the importance of creating boundaries, focusing on the children's wellbeing, and learning to distinguish between battles worth fighting and those better left behind. Most poignantly, Katie reflects on how modeling healthy partnership benefits her children: "Now they're seeing, oh, this is how a boyfriend or girlfriend's supposed to treat me."

This episode offers hope and practical guidance for anyone questioning whether more is possible in their relationships and life. Katie's journey reminds us that choosing yourself isn't selfish—it creates space for authentic happiness that ultimately benefits everyone you love.

Hi and welcome to Thrive and Decide. I’m your host Sarah Thress. This podcast is intended to help women who are going through a divorce, continplating divorce or have lost a spouse feel seen, heard, understood and not alone. All the beautiful souls who share on here are coming from a place of vulnerability and a common belief that sharing your story will help others. You will also hear from industry experts on what to do and not do while going through a divorce.


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