Nearly 5,000 men show up in Washington State, and what we hear afterward isn’t a victory lap, it’s a sober signal that something is shifting. We talk through highlights from FreedomCon at the Gorge and why it feels less like a passing revival moment and more like an awakening that pushes outward into families, churches, and communities.

Then Dr. Bob Pearl from Birchman Baptist joins us to unpack his book Courageous Church: Standing Boldly for Truth in a Cowardly World. We get practical about what “courage” looks like when the pressure is real, when the culture calls everything “politics,” and when pastors feel the temptation to stay quiet. Bob argues that abortion, marriage, and gender aren’t partisan talking points, they’re biblical issues tied to what we believe about God, humanity, and truth. We also dig into why courage is contagious, why community matters, and why you cannot sharpen iron with a marshmallow.

We close by connecting the spiritual to the civic, including Bob’s appointment to the Texas Commission on Marriage and Family and what it means to bring convictions into the public square without surrendering the church’s mission. If you’ve been discouraged by headlines, this conversation is a reminder to look for what God is doing on the ground and to stand where you’re planted.

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