On this week's show, we talk with the Founder and CEO of Social Media Week, Toby Daniels. Toby is one of the world's most influential thought leaders in the social and conference platform space. Toby and Dan talk about how Social Media Week has successfully pivoted to an online experience, why the term social is broadening thanks to gaming and which Pheonix will rise from the ashes after the 2020 sh*t show has passed. There's also a little table-thumping to add to the excitement.

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