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Some parts of Human Design and Gene Keys hit a nerve fast—especially when the language feels intense or “unflattering.” This month on the Expansive CEO Podcast, Hannah and Lauren are unpacking what's crunchy: the parts of your design that can trigger resistance, shame, or “Wait… why me?!”
In this episode, they pick up where last week left off and dive into one of the crunchiest profiles of all: the 3/5 (Martyr/Heretic). Together they reframe the meaning behind those loaded words, explain why 3/5s often feel like they're always “putting out fires,” and share how 3-line trial-and-error becomes wisdom when it's guided by Strategy + Authority.
Key Takeaways:
January 2026 update: Investment Friday has officially split off
Profiles 101: what the numbers actually mean
Why 3/5 is “top-tier crunchy”
The “theater on fire” metaphor (and why it lands)
Lower trigram vs upper trigram tension
The 5-line projection field: “You can fix my problem”
Parenting/leading a 3/5: ask “What did you learn?”
Gene Keys lens: 3rd-line Brand = humor
A crunchy truth: 3-lines can “pay the price” materially
Business application: why 3/5s can thrive in shorter containers
Discover your design, join the newsletter, and explore coaching at: https://expansiveceo.com. Don't forget to send your Human Design questions to [email protected]!
By Hannah Chapman5
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Some parts of Human Design and Gene Keys hit a nerve fast—especially when the language feels intense or “unflattering.” This month on the Expansive CEO Podcast, Hannah and Lauren are unpacking what's crunchy: the parts of your design that can trigger resistance, shame, or “Wait… why me?!”
In this episode, they pick up where last week left off and dive into one of the crunchiest profiles of all: the 3/5 (Martyr/Heretic). Together they reframe the meaning behind those loaded words, explain why 3/5s often feel like they're always “putting out fires,” and share how 3-line trial-and-error becomes wisdom when it's guided by Strategy + Authority.
Key Takeaways:
January 2026 update: Investment Friday has officially split off
Profiles 101: what the numbers actually mean
Why 3/5 is “top-tier crunchy”
The “theater on fire” metaphor (and why it lands)
Lower trigram vs upper trigram tension
The 5-line projection field: “You can fix my problem”
Parenting/leading a 3/5: ask “What did you learn?”
Gene Keys lens: 3rd-line Brand = humor
A crunchy truth: 3-lines can “pay the price” materially
Business application: why 3/5s can thrive in shorter containers
Discover your design, join the newsletter, and explore coaching at: https://expansiveceo.com. Don't forget to send your Human Design questions to [email protected]!

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